HOW TO PLAY 8 BALL … The “Official Rules” of Pool
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Dr. Dave discusses and demonstrates the “official rules” of 8-ball pool. It is a much better choice than common “bar rules.”
Contents:
0:00 - Intro
0:15 - Official Rules of Pool
1:00 - 8-Ball Rules
4:50 - Double Hit Fouls
8:33 - Other Common Fouls
9:59 - Wrap Up
CORRECTIONS:
1:07 - I said "1 on the spot" (because the 1 was the top ball in that rack examples), but the top ball does not need to be the 1. Any stripe or solid is allowed; although, putting the 1 at the top is customary.
1:48 - The rack is illegal. One of the corner balls should be a solid.
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- previous "bar rules" video: https://youtu.be/x8sI73wlyoM
- Video Encyclopedia of Eight Ball (VEEB): https://drdavebilliards.com/videos/8-ball/
- rules resources page: https://billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/
- league rule differences: https://billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/rule-differences
- bar rules resource page: https://billiards.colostate.edu/resources/rules/bar-rules
- double hit detection and avoidance: https://billiards.colostate.edu/faq/foul/double-hit/
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Contents:
0:00 - Intro
You did an excellent job showing the rules. The rules you showed are the same as the BCA rules. So the only difference was on the rack. In BCA rules just need 8 in the middle and stripe and solid on the corners. Again, great job explaining and demonstrating!
0:15 - Official Rules of Pool
1:00 - 8-Ball Rules
I'm never going to convince anyone of double-hits based on cue-ball behavior in a friendly game. :c/
4:50 - Double Hit Fouls
8:33 - Other Common Fouls
Good video but like others have said, bar rules stand, especially when the same people show up every week to play. They won't change the rules when they have been playing like that for years on end
9:59 - Wrap Up
CORRECTIONS:
Those double hits are my bread and butter.😄
1:07 - I said "1 on the spot" (because the 1 was the top ball in that rack examples), but the top ball does not need to be the 1. Any stripe or solid is allowed; although, putting the 1 at the top is customary.
1:48 - The rack is illegal. One of the corner balls should be a solid.
If the Black is potted on the break along with a solid does the one who breaks win or is it a loss? also on the break if say two solids and one stripe are pocketed the break person has right of Choice?
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- previous "bar rules" video: https://youtu.be/x8sI73wlyoM
Amazing how few people know the rules. With phones there’s no excuse. I played 3 guys for the first time last week showed them the “official rules” all 3 said “never heard of that” and didn’t want to play that way. Annoying.
- Video Encyclopedia of Eight Ball (VEEB): https://drdavebilliards.com/videos/8-ball/
- rules resource page: https://drdavepoolinfo.com/faq/rules/
A guy hits his own object. The object does not hit the bank but the cue ball does. According to the video, it’s a foul. But no foul was called. Why?
- fouls resource page: https://drdavepoolinfo.com/faq/foul/
- league rules resource page: https://drdavepoolinfo.com/faq/rules/league-rule-differences/
The one ball does not have to be at the top though , but that is still how I rack .
- bar rules resource page: https://drdavepoolinfo.com/resources/rules/bar-rules/
- double hit detection and avoidance: https://drdavepoolinfo.com/faq/foul/double-hit/
Thanks for doing this because I like to play it but bar rules are such an argument lol. Now I can play and see who is cheating. 👍👍👍
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Is a double hit foul a real thing? Even during the slow motion playback, I never see the cue ball double hit.
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This should be an obligatory watch before entering any place with a table. Thanks!
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why 9:25 and 9:30 are safety shots? Aren't fouls as you explain in the early? 9:25 not driven in the cushion. 9:30 you hit your opponent ball and drop the ball and your opponent;s ball in the corner.
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official rules:
if you pocket the 8 on break, you win this round.
your official rules suck! especially the double hit fouls. try convincing people they did a foul like this that they can't even see without a degree in ball physics. good luck.
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So the cue ball does not count as a ball hitting the cushion? And what happens, when I don't pocket my intended ball, but another one of mine instead? Do I or my opponent continue the round?
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I can see a reason to disallow double taps of the cue ball that are clearly intentional like to compensate for a miscue but these double hits just from proximity that are even hard to tell without special knowledge seems way too anal for me. Sorry Dave but you really need to justify this. You explain the technical details at length without any reasonable justification for the rule in these cases.
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what happens if you get one of your balls in a pocket that wasn't called?
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This video was a great educational pool tool. It cleared up a lot of confusing rules caused by inconsistent Bar Rules. Thank you, Dr. Dave. 🎱
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what happens if you hit a ball off the table? (not the cue ball), where does it go?
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It's a double hit because the tip of the cue made contact with the cue ball twice
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Growing up in singapore as a teen 20 years ago, I was taught exactly these rules and everyone I played with adhered to these rules. Even strangers who would come to challenge our table. The only thing illegal at the pool houses was me. I was underaged and the staff would provide me a change of school uniform to some spare clothing they had prepared and pretended they didn't know my age. As for bars, nobody serious plays pool at bars here. The tables are horribly maintained and most people who go play have no experience playing pool.
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What happens if you call a shot but something else happened post-shot (e.g. I called 13 in the corner, somehow 13 didnt enter but the cue ball went on to pot the 11 in another pocket)?
@mdhvshymThanks for the detailed official rules.
09:23 How is that not a foul since no balls hit the cushion ?
My friends and I have evolved to play all the official rules (after object ball is hit something has to hit a wall etc) but we have all agreed to play with slop and you don't have to call any shot but the 8 ball. Also the double hit we don't call unless its really obvious. This helps us speed up games and have more fun with friends who aren't as practiced. Also when you are at a bar it is easier to play with other opponents that way, they are much more willing to play with rules they don't know if they still have some casual creature comforts.
@correct_leeEvery player hackar what I play
@rajendrakumar1612Video starts with a 9 ball rule claiming the yellow 1 has to be the Apex/ on the spot, which is not the case according the WPA rules in 8ball...
8 and one of each on back corner, the rest randomly
In the early 2000s I played in an 8 ball league on 9 foot tables at a local pool hall. Well, it was more like weekly tournaments. I never won. Heck, I never even did that well, but it was fun.
During that time I took a long vacation I Thailand. On my third or forth night there I wondered into a bar with a bunch of pool tables. Loser pays winner stays. Thai rules. 2 shots on a foul. 7 foot tables. I was 23 years old and probably the youngest person there by 15 years.
I was like a monster that entered the bar. I instantly became the nemesis of the bar. And this was supposedly one of the places the good players went. They didn't even let me enter their weekly tournament later in the week... I spent quite a bit of time there the first ten days or so until I realized I was wasting my vacation on something I did all the time at home.
2 shots is way better than ball in hand imo
@Hellcrusher56xAt 9.23 cue ball hits solid ball but did not hit rail, should this be a foul, ball in hand as solid didn't hit rail?
@1life2liveADVMost important rule - No Slop
@Brandon-em4qhGo rams
@DarkySoulzz@drdavebilliards when you dont call the pocket of the ball - is it a scratch/ball in hand? Will the ball come back on table and where will it be positioned if put back?
@venkatananduriI took over a weekly “bar rules” pool tournament at a bar in Denver. The first week one player pushed the cue ball behind a group of balls without hitting any ball. A new player called it cheating. Unfortunately, bar rules in THAT bar allowed that kind of shot. The next week I printed out the BCA rules and we became a learning tournament that vastly improved play, and players!
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If a player breaks dry, the table is open. If the opposing player pots an object ball AND the cue ball on the shot, after said dry break, is the table still open or is it considered a regular foul? This seems too specific to find anywhere else I have looked. A reply would be greatly appreciated. :]
what if a foul is committed when "claiming" solids or stripes?
@watamalonez6802Is it an automatic lost if you pocket your ball and the cue ball before the 8 ball?
@chaiyang9100Stupid game with more official versions of the rules than a cat has lives...... different countries, different rules, easy variants, less easy variants . Snooker is a skilful game with one set of rules......pool is just 'redneck snooker'
@plld6969Ball in hand seems so easy like how can pros get ball in hand in 8 ball and not clear the table I don’t understand how the rule isn’t if the Q ball is still on table (and not in the pocket) you play as it lies or if the ball goes in the pocket then you get a ball in hand in the kitchen?
@DameMercs7:30 i dont see how this is a double hit. Especially in real life...dont call anybody on this one please lol
@hyvemynd605Excellent. Concise and clear. Double hitting section is the best I've seen. I play snooker and "push" (double hitting) is quite often self called.
@shermanthetankOff the break making the 8 is always a win? What league doesn’t have that rule?
@GrassyKnollLawnCareI always played when you scratch you shot behind the line, like when you break. I’ve always hated ball in hand to me that’s not as challenging.
@scottnelson7506I've always played if you pocket the 8 on the break, it's an instant win.
@djratinoI get the desire for a universal set of rules to be played at the bar, but you know full well what would happen if you tried to call a double kiss that wasn’t really obvious. If you tried to do it by the direction the ball went in after? I hope you have a cold steak at home to press on your eye when you get back.
@jasondashneyI think most “bar rules” were made up to speed up the games so more people can play
@jacobsakulsky114You showed a glimpse of the rules but when you racked you didn't rack according to them.
@tetryl1I was today yeas old when I learned I have never played a single game of pool with the official rules.
@ninji5226These rules will need VAR and also make the game very boring.
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