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Lessons Learned in Divorce | FRIDAY FIELD NOTES

Video Overview & Insights

Can recognizing relationship red flags early save a marriage? In this week's Friday Field Notes, Ryan Michler reflects on lessons from his 18-year marriage and divorce, emphasizing how minor issues, if ignored, can snowball into major challenges.

Marry in the Philippines 😂 no divorce and will never give an annulment if one party wants it / there is no documented physical abuse or torture. Also takes years to even try to file an annulment and money she wouldn’t have

— @ssing7113

He highlights the power of proactive communication and self-growth. Ryan shares strategies for navigating divorce with grace, focusing on personal responsibility, parenting, and self-care, while avoiding spiteful behavior.

He also explores male empowerment and collective growth, offering insights from friends like Keith Yackey to inspire hope, resilience, and a thriving future.

In modernity, marriage is for simps.

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SHOW HIGHLIGHTS

(00:00) Episode Intro

Marriage is for the weak

— @callmedre-q9o

(00:38) Lessons Learned From Personal Divorce

(10:39) Moving Forward After Divorce

The more you do the more she expect me to do. Then not doing all of the things become complacency. Unfortunately, women are not usually held accountable for their part, and it falls on the men to pick up the slack in every aspect.

— @Nevertrustblue

(15:41) Navigating Divorce With Grace and Purpose

(21:50) Empowering Men Through Collective Growth

Lessons learned. Dont get married.

— @Shinsephir

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5:00 --- this was my self-inflicted torpedo.

Happening to me now (divorce / both early retired but not quite retirement age) after 29 years of marriage. I'm a good Christian man and dad. My major misstep in our marriage was not being a good leader to my wife by rarely communicating feedback and expectations with her when I felt slighted, unappreciated, rejected or sensed any type of emasculation (whether that was the reality or in my head). Instead of being up front with her, I'd shut down and avoid her, freezing her out. I did this hundreds of times over the decades, 4 hours, days, weeks at a time. In retrospect, my decision to do this to her was unacceptable my me. Weak. I've never done this to anyone my entire life. I didn't really understand the profound impacts this was having on her until our first/reent therapy session 29 years into the marriage. She was the love of my life and my best friend, and I always showed up, always worked like a dog, never raised my voice, got angry with her, threatened her, cussed at her. She always drove the nice vehicles I always drove the cash beaters. I thought I was a good man and husband. By the time it hit me that the primary reason we're getting divorced was on me for not being a good Christian leader, and from her growing weary from having to come back and make peace with me those hundreds of times after I'd pull away, it's sunk in that she had been over me for quite some time. In fairness to her, I had been miserable in our marriage for the last year, as it seemed she could not give two rips about me, so I was the one who suggested we get divorced (which I voiced to her when I was blaming everything on her). One long therapy session recently, our FIRST (another mistake as we should have gone 25, 20, 15 10, 5 years ago), helped me understand and accept my major misstep that I mentioned prior. Important to take ownership of our roles in what goes wrong in marriage. I've been packing up all my belongings, tools, etc and moving them to a storage unit for the past week, as we get ready to list our beautiful family home (that she used to love but now says brings her bad memories) next month. Still have not told my grown children who are out of the house. It's going to be a killer. I still have not confided with anyone about this, whereas my wife has her close friends and sister that she has confided in. I don't think that has helped my cause, as her primary friend has been in a miserable marriage for decades and his planning her exit. I told my wife that I changed during and after that therapy session, when for the first time, I fully understood and accepted my role and what I did wrong and how I mistreated her, which helped me recast and rethink all the blame I was putting on her and put that of it on me. How could she ever make any adjustments if I never gave her any feedback? I told her I was ashamed for what I did and wanted to make things right, as my prior perception blaming her had been clouded by what was going on in my head. Another one of my missteps is I never sought any mentors, clergy or trusted guys to bounce my concerns and actions off of for 30 years, as I was shouldering it all in my head. It's completely logical today that I should have confided in my wife and been vulnerable and honest with her all these decades. That is my fault and I accept full responsibility.

She is done. Ive accepted her decision and I'm preparing for our split soon. She seems giddy (weird to me?) with an odd happiness/joy, but I think its because she has already been through the roller coaster battle in her mind this past year feeling the euphoria of seeing the end of the road and her new life alone. I can't help to think her joy is going to fade to some degree, as we were close for decades, with me showing up every day to take care and DIYed nearly everything in our lives all these years.

It's very difficult and odd to hear her state aloud how so many years of our marriage were miserable for her, how she wished she could have divorced me a lot earlier when our kids were little, and how we didn't get along very well. These are things I only heard this past month, as my memories are of at least 25-27 years of so much fun, laughter, love, compassion, etc.... that we seem to looking at different movie replays. I think me being her complete villain helps her accept her story easier, and that's okay, because what I did was not cool at all.

I am moving into my first ever apartment (I'm 58) and away from our town, church family and lives...I know can't fully heal and grow if I'm continually reminded of what we've lost. Thank you Jesus for this wonderful life, my wife, our sons, the countless blessings you have given me and us. I ask you for forgiveness and guidance as I move to life 2.0 alone, humbled, physically and mentally strong, and open minded. I am ready to grow and to serve you.

Couple final thoughts. I never thought gray divorce would happen to me. However with our kids out of the house and our beloved puppy dog passing on a couple years ago, it seems we have complete different interests and passions. One major "ahha" moment for me is that we both dreamed of living on a lake a couple hours away from our major city in retirement. This is something we've talked about for 25 years . She informed me last month that lake living is my dream and not hers. Ummm....ok? She is just fine staying in the city where we are today in an apartment or whatever, so she can go to lunch with and hang out with her friends. Of course we are splitting everything 50/50 amicably, the only way to go, and thanks to God (and I will take credit for my financial foresight to live simply and invest heavily), and we will both be okay separately in retirement, although it will not be the lifestyles either one of us imagined when we were together. With all this in mind, I'm at peace. I've gotten into incredible physical shape these past few months and am strengthening my walk with Jesus. You guys going through this, stay strong physically and with your faith, which will make you mentally very steady and ready to take on whatever is in your path.

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You are goals my man! Got together at 19 old .. 3 kids and almost 17 years later, were separated. I’m taking accountability for my wrongs and trying to be this way.. but I want to get to the point where I’m no longer trying, it’s just how I am.. if that makes sense. Right now I’m still fighting the urge to not make stupid comments to her or be mad about the the thought of what or WHO she’s doing with her free time .. I’ll get there tho! 😅

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I was married for 40 years (over 1/2 my life) and we were Christians
We made a promise & covenant before God, & I took it for granted that divorce was not an option.
I was wrong.
She did.
We made many mistakes.
She is divorcing me & I am 73 and alone.
I may never get her and her side of the family back, and never get to prove to her that I have learned so much in since she has been gone over a year.
That we can be better.
I can not control her heart, only my own.
That is scary, but I have to go on.
That is the only option.
Don't take each other for granted!!!
If you are in couple's therapy work on how to communicate fairly and how to stay connected, not on the problems.
Everyone has problems.
It is how you communicate respectfully that counts.
That is my advice.

@keithfox7315
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every divorce is a failure. it's the death of the One new Person that you/God created when you made the vows before Him to love, honor and cherish... "til death do you part'. there is nothing good that comes from that death.

@recoveringknowitall1534
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People come together for a season, a reason, and a lifetime no body wins them all.

@davidmorrison3031
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No wife is a happy life.✌🏽

@fearless7424
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One more person telling men what to do

@ravenclaw1985
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Root cause is law gives her a choice to leave and get paid. Stop beating up men who are showing up as dads and husband's inspite of all this

@ravenclaw1985
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Stay single guys!

@irvinreyes3448
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Coming out of a 20 year marriage, and have arrived at all of these conclusions in a month.

@James4Jesus
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I only listen to men who have been through divorce

@bobthegamer1880
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A marriage didn't work?? I'm SHOCKED!

@1530f
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Or don't get married. Have kids, but don't get married.

@shyboy599
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Made it to 13 mins before I gave up. Too repetitive about doing better as men & having early conversations blah blah blah. 80% or more divorces are filed by the woman yet somehow WE need to do better. BULLSHIT. We men would gladly die for our families and wives YET they can say the magic phrase “I’m not happy” like some child and magically they are fully exonerated and it’s all OK !!!!! It magically happened around menopause for everyone I know who’s divorced. And ladies - it’s your responsibility to make yourself happy - no one else. Turn off ChickTok - the grass is ALWAYS greener where you water it.

@TrailerYacht
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Thank you for your service 🙏

@meridianmind-k8j
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Man, I needed to hear this. These points hit home where I’m at in my divorce. It’s early on and she robbed me of time with my children, a lot less days. It’s very hard not to be bitter about it. God help me and thank you for guiding me to this video.

@drewg3087
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Did you ever think your wife divorced you because you are a narcissist, perhaps? Just an observation.

@FelixMcCool
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Disagree 100% on that first point. Say whats real. I did what you said and changed. Yes I became a better man. But my wife weaponized everything to get me there including sex. Now that we are divorcing she weaponizes the kids. No... listen to what she is trying to do to you. What is her real intent behind those talks? What is she using to tug at your emotional strings? I do agree with don't get complacent but back up and look at the macroperspective of what this woman is doing. The entitlement. Taking for granted a lavish life. Bringing little to nothing to the table while defying the sanctity of marriage. Weaponizing divorce threats. You sound like a simpish in this. Adjust fire and focus on yourself. The days of submitting and living on our knees for women, then being thrown in the court system to be eaten alive all while our kids get treated like property, not people, that we are fighting to see... Negative raptor man. The court says 50/50 but the math don't add up.

I filed today after 10 years. My wife sucks. She wants to smoke and drink and live a life of addictions and excuses. That's okay. I've grown over the decade and look forward to an autonomous life. I did listen to her like you talked about, but I also grew wise enough to get out because I was in a repetitive cycle of being used, belittled, and beat down. Lucky I'm a controlled masochist so I turned to MMA and the gym to work my issues out. I listened to and read books to grow. Most people that do what your saying, they don't get out. They stay, and die there. Believing all they have is some woman who has sex with them twice a year, spends their money, and treats you like a criminal around the kids.

Be single. Be happy. Be autonomous. STOP looking for validation from others. Get fit and healthy. Enjoy some romance but don't let leave her toothbrush at your home. Stop buying her things as a sign of love. Get things for yourself that you forget about when you get married. Things I wrote off like getting a boat and camping trailer... I look forward to what's to come.

@coachcurt5454
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YOU are SOOOOO wrong!

@MrMann-wg9rw
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There are few cooler things than a real knife!

@MrMann-wg9rw
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Thank you so much for this video, Ryan. I’m in the midst of the meat grinder myself. No quitting, somehow need to see the light on the other side. Self improvement never ends, even post untying the knot.

@Logan24855
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Nothing is more cold or cruel than a woman who decides she doesent love you anymore. Women are far less loyal than men. I said what i said.

@nicklong7661
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MEN!! GET A DNA TEST BEFORE YOU AGREE TO CHILD SUPPORT!!!!

@chiefswife1212
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if you just have to get married my advice to any man is
1.prenuptial agreement to protect your assets
2.make her go to work and contribute.....if you dont....they will financially murder you in court.

@captrodgers4273
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Here is the thing. Every relationship ends in heartbreak. Whether through death or divorce, every relationship ends once its time has come. The real question is, are you a better person at the end of the relationship than at the beginning. If you can say yes, then I would say the time in the relationship was not waisted. Yes, it hurts, and you mourn its passing, but don't live in its ending. I once heard you shouldn't be sad that something ended but happy that it even occurred at all.

@IphigeniaAtAulis
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Just focus on God and not her.

@TruthSetsFree777
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Gratitude 🙏

@cajuncrackerranch7990
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Women are not loyal to you. It’s only a man’s fantasy.

@desC0D3
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Partridge family boy here things were the one that forgets

@juniorberns
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Hard not to be spiteful when you slave away at work all day to provide and have your partner stay home stress free get their body right health right to just one day call it quits. Then have to give half and still have to pay while shes out living a good life. Your life and kids lives changes drastically and she doesn't even care

@rafydeez2
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When incels make it past 50

@akirasLostSon
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Ryan. I came across this video late. It is now January 2025. I offer encouragement to you here. I'm 70 years young. I've been married to my second, and last, wife for 43 years at this point. My first marriage ended after 18 months. Long enough to have a baby girl I loved and adored. Without specifics, my first marriage ended by choice of my first wife. She felt I wasn't compatible anymore with our different opinions about life direction. She had an affair with a friend of mine. She divorced me and moved in with him. Yes, it was hell to deal with in many ways and I got through it with support from good friends from church and non church. Three years later I met my second wife through church friends. The church environment is not a sure thing. I've seen divorces in church families, too. My wife and I have had a couple of serious issues to contend with during our 43 years. We got through them, no infidelity involved, but damage was done. We saved most of the 'good marriage' factors to stay in love with each other. Overall, it's not easy. I think most people don't understand how "where they came from" created an "auto pilot" way of thinking and planning and responding to issues in life such that they choose to run instead of do the work to repair, kinsugi style, the once wonderful relationship. God bless you, Ryan, in moving forward day by day, with a strong support group and with keeping yourself available for whatever blessings await you. I learn from your videos. Thank you for helping me become more of the man I'm always trying to be.

@DancingStringsGuitar
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Women need to be shamed for divorcing when there isn't cheating, abuse, etc. They get a pass because because women aren't held to the same standard as men and it's ridiculous - especially in these times and the gynocentric world we're in.

Of course you don't want it to ruin you as a person but the idea that women get a free pass for ruining a marriage and possible family is beyond me. They want their rights, then treat them as equals. Granted, father time will give them the punishment/discipline they deserve but even then, their hubris and ego will likely keep them delusional lol

@Pala-t2p
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I don’t know your situation but don’t put too much blame on yourself. Most women are out of control.

@Flyingcircustailwheel
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My ex-friend, let's call him Ron, is a codependent. He's been divorced 6 times and married again. One time, he decided not to contact a friend of theirs I had met at their place. I went outside to help Ron move some stuff quickly, which ended up taking 20 minutes. When I returned, she had left to pick up her child. She had dropped by after her work. So I asked Ron, and wife #5 to call her and ask if it was OK if I called her. After a week, I inquired about her and was told, "we decided you guys weren't a good match," he told me. I said, "Well, after 4 divorces and with #5 on the rocks (he told me that a month prior), your judgment has been proven flawed. 2 months later, #5 left. 6 months later, he married #6, an immature, needy, controlling bitch. I again asked Ron to ask her, as their was chemistry there. Sparks, clearly. He declined. I told him that I asked him a favor to call her. I did not ask him to choose for me, only to make the call and find out. Earlier, I mentioned ex-friend. That is because he stuck up for #6 when she treated me rudely. I called her out on it, so was made personna nongrata. Not welcome any longer. Well, at least I had called her out on her bullshit. If Ron wants to put up with it, have at it. But I won't tolerate disrespect. And I'm clearly a better judge of female character that Ron is. He expressed disappointment in #6 prior to our falling out. He lamented stating he didnt want to get divorced again. Pathetic

@williamcooke6056
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And remember if she decides to leave and you have no prenup…. you’re screwed.

@mjaybee
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You have absolutely nothing to teach a man how to win if you’ve lost a marriage.

@GigaCrafty
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Praying over you brother! I’m so sorry about all of this.

A stat that is not talked about enough:

A husband and wife that pray together on a daily basis - have a 95% success rate!

Something to consider before and in the middle of marriage.

@liveuntamed
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Quality words my friend

@Wise-up-already
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Smart men stay single! Don’t get married if you like your life!

@JesusIsOurGod811