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STOP Using Proton & Signal? Here’s the TRUTH

Video Overview & Insights

Are Proton privacy and the Signal messaging app still secure? Every year this gets called into question, yet rarely is the full story ever told. In this video, Josh explains what's really happening with these privacy and security apps as well as how it affects YOU directly.

What's your take? Do you think I'm letting Proton and Signal off the hook here? Leave your opinion here and let's discuss. Then make sure to watch my video on the 12 Privacy & Security tools I use EVERY DAY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNOAOQktG6U

— @AllThingsSecured

Watch this video on the 12 privacy and security apps I use EVERY DAY: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XNOAOQktG6U

YES, I still use and recommend Proton & Signal:

I just send duck pics - still want them encrypted and not scanned though. :)

— @tubeincompetence

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▶ Get the Signal app: https://signal.org/

I think I can simplify all of this. I was involved in an scam operation that was using the Tor network. When I got caught up and appeared in front of the judge, the evidence they had plus the government agencies that were involved, one of them had said to the judge and everyone else, "there really is no privacy online anywhere you go"! And he specifically referred to the Tor network and by how they managed to collect this stuff from Tor, made me a firm believer of it.
And google is nothing more than a technology branch of the government, and by the way, this was from back in around 2012, so imagine the advances that have been made since then.

— @GabrielB-i6d

If you care about your personal security and privacy online, download my free security checklist here:

✅ Security Checklist: https://www.allthingssecured.com/security-checklist-pdf/

Signal is a CIA controlled app. It tracks users and if the need arises those users can become targets for the CIA.
And if you're claiming Signal is truly open source then answer this does the distributed APK including the iPhone build actually match the public source code? No it doesn't. That's what I call a dual-coding strategy showing one thing publicly while distributing something different.
Simple Signal is not safe.

— @firebol1109

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We've got a lot of great privacy- and security-related content here on the All Things Secured YouTube channel (although we admit we're a bit biased). If you're wanting to increase your online cybersecurity, here's what's next:

Proton moved to Norway where surveillance laws allow complete privacy.

— @miker3298

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✅ Which is the BEST Password Manager? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BsVkVa0n0T0

Click bait? Really?

— @LdT_46843

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Is the open source program that appears to be secure actually the one implemented and being used? Could a compromised alternative “signal” be implemented and the open source code you see an examine is not being implemented?

— @larrymietusmd3299

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You are a CIA agent trying to convince people to use insecure services so the U.S. government could spy on them without breaking a sweat.

— @fankefang

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✅ Recommended VPN: https://www.allthingssecured.com/try/nordvpn-yt

Companies can be sold.
Leadership can change.
Companies can change jurisdictions.

— @Apeiron242

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Video Timestamps

I stopped using this app called signal today i had my account there and deleting that app from my phone

— @animefangirl9006

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0:00 - Are Proton & Signal still secure?

Warning: Proton support is very slow to respond to customers. Sometimes they don't respond at all. If I would have known I wouldn't have started using Proton.

— @Mike_thx.1138

0:36 - Cybersecurity confirmation bias

1:20 - Privacy companies & government data requests

Signal is secure 100%

— @PixeluXS

2:15 - Encryption & data requests

3:41 - Signal accused of having encryption broken

@AllThingsSecured Signal was a honeypot from the get-go. KYC to sign up, but hey it's E2E? Calling home to AWS all the time? Seriously?

That's not even the main problem: the server backend of Signal is running closed source software so it could be full of backdoors - we will never know. "Trust me bro Snowden" says it's safe, so it must be so. lmao

— @ketobor3591

5:12 - Understanding personal OPSEC with privacy apps

5:50 - How to Remove Proton Recovery Email address

I actually find the comments much more informative than the video...

— @FreeSpirit-u5q

6:23 - How to Hide IP address from Proton

6:36 - Practical privacy in the digital age

Love proton

— @tt55k

7:21 - Should you stop using Proton & Signal?

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It blows my mind that people trust Signal when they REQUIRE YOUR PHONE NUMBER.

— @charleschristianson2730

It's easy to get swept up in the news that a privacy company has handed over user data to a government intelligence agency. But what are the limitations of companies like @ProtonAG or Signal? Or perhaps more importantly, what is YOUR responsibility when using such apps, considering the fact that no single software or service can guarantee you privacy and anonymity?

#privacymatters #cybersecurity #onlineprivacy

It's really simple... Anything you upload or share online you loose control over. Be prepared to loose anything you upload or share. That's been the rule since the 80's. Once its out of your control, its out of your control. Also, expecting privacy online is like expecting privacy on public space and in a city. Do you walk around in New York and expect privacy? No? Then why do you excpect that online, where there are far more people than in NYC? Nobody has a right to privacy in public space. Photographs are being made, recordings are being made, for good intents and bad intents. Privacy can only be expected on your own private property. But still, even if your car is private property - as long as its parked on public land - you have no right to privacy!

— @borgeindergaard

PANTOMIME

Its either complying to some huge legal requests or selling data for fun. Pick your choice, I think its pretty obvious which to go with with these

— @alex-o3e9r

More User Perspectives

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Not secure signal chat

@AndreRosario-o7q
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Not secure facts no privacy

@AndreRosario-o7q
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Truth signal chat not private

@AndreRosario-o7q
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Why do people support this clickbait?
These titles or rather overall this bait creates uncertainty among users and potential future users.

@GrillerRohde
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The best practice you can do is practice compartmentalization. Keep your work atuff on your work machine and your personal stuff on your personal machine.

On your personal machines, use different browsers for different things.

Try to limit cloud based services as much as possible.

But in the 3nd, tools will only get you ao far. If for example, you ise TOR and log into your social media account or bank site, you may as well not use TOR at all.

And VPNs pretty much give you a false sense of security, all you are doing is sending your traffic to their harvesters. Even though they will promose to not lof, the metadata is still there.

@CayoBuay
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What yall don't address is the metadata angle.
There is no 100% privacy and security. No matter how much companies say "we do not log" ... there is ALWAYS metadata and that carries enough data to get you.

For example, even though Apple says their AI is "local" the metadata of everything is still sent back home for analyzing and profiling.

@CayoBuay
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All you do is change the recovery email address to a free protonmail account and make sure that password is extreme and kept safe somewhere. Then they cannot use google to do a password recovery inline with the gov. So its completely safe again.

@zenith17823
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First time this channel was recommended to me. Clicked on the video because of the title you chose to give it which is misleading. Now blocking this channel and hope others do too. People like you shouldn't be rewarded for lying

@darkfathersaccount
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Two points:
1. Encryption is meaningless if the messages can still be viewed on your phone once it's unlocked.
2. I use a different privacy focused email address as my recovery email. I used a service that doesn't link payment to account identity. Posteo.

@GordonHudson
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“That’s a bad look”? Are you serious to minimise the knowledge that the current CEO of Signal was also a part of the Government intelligence community? ANYONE CAN BE BOUGHT if their price is not their life (credit James O’keefe).
How perfect is it for the powers that be to have an intelligence community member as the head of a “private” messenger service?
Have we really become so labotomised not to see this?

@Bomayler432
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One man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter.

@tomdonahoe3539
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This is a big lie from you but what can you expect from an American. To be clear: It was not Proton who did that, but Apple, yes it hears right, the worthless product, Apple who, together with microsoft and goole, sits on the lap of your intelligence services and government. That has long been investigated and proven. So it was not Proton but Apple who shared the data. Apple, microsoft and Google are obliged to do so because they fall under the American law Proton does not, because it falls under the law of Switzerland and that country will never do anything to you amerioccans because they have something they don't have in America, they call that privacy you can look up in the dictionary what the word means. Because privacy is completely unknown in your country. So don't tell lies, but the truth that all American products are only out to spy on citizens, no matter what country you live in. Tell the truth and stop accusing honest products

@evertprak5519
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click bate doesn´t do your channel a servce.

@johanneskingma
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This is true signal leak chat

@AndreRosario-o7q
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Sales pitch

@Pamparoso23
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Not subscribing to your channel because of your CLICK BAIT headline.

@leroy5376
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Proton Changed his Server Country. Sweden and Germany are true in Nov 2025. Switzerland is out. Video should be update. Thx

@RotePille9
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Unless you are privy to in house conversations in the back rooms with these companies. Everything you are saying is speculation.

@wazhushkmuskrat9907
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😂

@netcip
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My inbox is 100% full of junk mail. The Government/Police are most welcome to have read them all.

@Jomo-x6n
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Those who are concerned about their privacy and data are living in the wrong era.

@mad00insane
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True schizos question the encryption algos & NSA capturing random numer generators.
However the signal glowie recent president is in my opinion proving that agencies want to capture signal because so far has been safe. (Unless the above is true, and have been able to decypher encrypted messages and just hand out subpeonas for the lolz, jk)

@BigCityLife42069
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1:28 — Ah yes, the Spanish state, doing what it does best: calling anyone with an opinion a “terrorist.” Massive overreach doesn’t even cover it. It’s almost poetic how they can turn a bloke handing out leaflets into Public Enemy No. 1. “Mobilise”? Could mean gathering supporters for a rally, could mean setting up a knitting club — but no, Madrid’s imagination goes straight to “raising an army to overthrow Spain.” The real terrorists wear uniforms and carry EU-funded batons — you know, the ones caught on video clubbing old grannies for the crime of waving a Catalan flag. Spain: where democracy is illegal, and your nan becomes a "domestic extremist" for knitting independence scarves. Spraying pepper gas at old ladies with walkers — yes, that’ll really win hearts and minds. Bravo, Spain. Nothing says “unity” like beating up granny for asking to vote. Every time they try to crush Catalonia, they prove exactly why Catalonia wants out. Viva granny resistance. Proton, the privacy saint turned snitch. No proof, no crime, just folded like wet cardboard and handed over user data. So much for “privacy first” — more like “privacy until the first email from the cops.” Pathetic.

@johnmknox
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This is what I called multiple stack of problematic with information. I believe protonmail does have a lot of alternative and surprise. Go figure yourself.

@TzeYongChen
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2:02 You just said yourself that any country that a company operates in must follow their laws so it literally doesn't matter what platform you use. A company must abide by the law. Whether it's proton crouton or whatever ton

@Cryptid71
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0:46 I think we need to be honest here if a government is really after you they are going to get your data one way or another. It doesn't matter what the hell you use. Now what we should focus on is shifting towards privacy against scammers and everyday hackers. That should be the main focus because the government or any of the major governments will be able to get your info no matter what program you use. These companies don't want to be sanctioned they don't want to be in trouble with Russia China America

@Cryptid71
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Proton was founded by a Taiwanese. And Signal was funded by American government. Both are CIA honey trap. Tucker Carlson's Signal messages were intercepted by CIA when he was visiting Russia

@UnitedMenBD
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Instead of putting the blame on us, why don’t you tell us WHAT IS SAFE??? Obviously people want and need security. So, tell us WHAT IS ACTUALLY SECURE! If email cannot be completely secure, WHAT IS SECURE? You’re not addressing the issue.

@cj3720
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Click Bait... How low can you go?

@almassakhan
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If this is a clickbait title I will never watch a video of yours again
Edit: sure was. And you even gave yourself plausible deniability by adding the "?" At the end of "STOP using Proton and Signal". You yourself brought up FUD in this video which is what this title is. You seemed to have great content but unfortunately you tried to fearmonger me for a view. Bye bye!!

@Mrqwerty2109
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Very level headed take, thanks!

@AntheniumX