Tesla FSD vs EU: Should a Self-Driving Car Be Allowed to Speed?
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Sweden Could Be Blocking Tesla FSD in Europe or?
Yes it should be legal. How often do our cars "recognize" a wrong sign or doesn't read the extra? 80 but only Mo-Fr. But the car beeps and breaks on Saturday and Sunday too. I HATE IT
One of the biggest issues in the ongoing EU approval process is Tesla's "Speed Offset" feature, which allows FSD to drive slightly above the posted speed limit. Some European regulators, especially in the Nordic countries, argue that automated driving systems should always obey the law. Others point out that Tesla's own safety data suggests that FSD may already be safer than human drivers in many situations.
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The speed offset is a driver control just like the throttle pedal is.
I think the Swedish minister doesnât fully understand FSD.
If they disable the offset what does the driver stop from pushing the throttle to let fsd speed? Using the pedal is a bigger safety risk
Why Sweden and other Nordic countries are concerned about FSD Speed Offset?
Vision Zero and Swedish road safety philosophy
I donât think Sweden were bleating on about this time at the latest TCMV meeting otherwise Reuters would. have been all over it again. The Tesla hating media keep digging up their news story from April 30th and making a big issue of it.
Whether safer automated vehicles should be treated differently from human drivers?
Why I believe Tesla should accept the European rules and remove Speed Offset to accelerate approval?
First principles thinking demands that speed limits are challenged by asking why the speed limit exists.
Most speed limits were implemented in response to the failings and limitations of human drivers.
Constraing FSD, an always alert super capable driver, with speed limits made for humans is stupid.
I also share my personal experience using Tesla Full Self-Driving Supervised in the United States and explain why I expect an automated driving system to operate both safely and legally.
What do you think?
I find this whole discussion a bit silly ...
With FSD Supervised, the driver is still liable ... just like he is, when he is NOT using FSD Supervised ...
And if Tesla wants to, they could "geofence" this functionality ... if you drive into Sweden, the option is disabled .. after all, even today, what happens if you take your FSD Supervised from the Netherlands into a country that does not allow FSD Supervised? I am pretty certain that the car will not currently allow you to use FSD Supervised in Germany (for example)...
Honestly, this is a "non-issue" ... and how is this handled today with the "Enhanced Autopilot" in Sweden? I can already use the speed offset and "break the law" ...
I am all in favor of making roads safer (and I donÂŽt understand why we in Germany donÂŽt limit the Autobahn speed to 130 km/h), And FSD-Supervised will be safer and better than my "Enhanced Autopilot" that I use nearly every day.
Should FSD always obey the speed limit?
Or should a safer automated vehicle be allowed more flexibility than a human driver?
Yet cars with regular cruise control are sold - and those can be set to a speed that is higher than the limit?!
Let me know in the comments.
For the chanel owner education :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YerQnTYJYYc
BTW, be certain that an accident with an overspeeding FSD Tesla would be the best way to postpone FSD for at least 10 years in Europe. When FSD will be unsupervised you will be able to do whatever you want in the car, even reading a book, then who cares is the car arrives one minute earlier đ.
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Implementing a solution seems straightforward, simply restrict the vehicle's maximum speed to the legal limit enforced by the local jurisdiction. Alternatively, utilizing GPS velocity would be practical, given that onboard speedometers typically underestimate actual speed. Moreover, auditory speed warnings are entirely rational. What is profoundly irrational is jeopardizing human lives under the guise of saving time. Whether specific speed limits are poorly calibrated is a separate debate. If one cannot appreciate why traffic regulations exist, they should not be operating a motor vehicle. Public roads are not playgrounds, and no driver has the right to compromise the safety of others. To be frank, this approach is doing a very bad job to promote FSD. The 'superhuman FSD' narrative is fundamentally flawed and misinterprets statistical data. Statistics measure aggregate human behavior (which includes variables like fatigue, distraction, and error) but this aggregate data does not prove that FSD outperforms an alert, capable human. Ultimately, in any collision involving a pedestrian, cyclist, or another vehicle, kinetic energy is the deciding factor, speed dictates the severity of the consequences.
@didierpuzenat7280Thank you for bringing awareness to this. EU should really allow it in whole Europe.
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