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Thailand… This Is How Expats Get Into Big Trouble

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1. Why I use the word “expat”
In Thailand, foreigners are stamped “Non-Immigrant” in their passport. That means you must check in every 90 days, can’t work in jobs reserved for Thais, can’t own land, and can be deported (and banned for 5–10 years) if caught working without a permit. So while I’d love to call myself an immigrant, legally we’re not — hence the word expat.

2. What I do for a living
I run a health foods company here in Thailand and have a work permit that covers all YouTube activities. I’ve paid tax in Thailand for over 10 years — through my own companies (an English school and a jazz lounge), as well as during my career in the 5-star hotel industry (Anantara). And yes — I speak Thai.

3. Can foreigners own land in Thailand?
No. But a superficies agreement allows you to control the land for 30+ years, and houses here are relatively affordable (1–2 million THB). If you have children, owning a home is essential for their security. Still, it’s smart to keep around 80% of your net worth in high-performance assets outside Thailand.

4. About my wife
We’ve been together 12 years of my 15+ years in Thailand. She’s a finance graduate, hardworking, traditional, and loyal — she earned more and owned more property than me when we met, and she’s stood by me through both success and struggle.

5. Patreon & Memberships
All Patreon and channel membership income goes directly to supporting our Thai extended family — for food, school supplies, and household needs.

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Women are doing the same thing worldwide. Maybe and this is a big maybe. difference, women rely on men for sperm in the USA, but often in the East, it is Financial + Sperm. Usually in the West can support themselves, in general. Yeah, if you looking for this marriage thing or a relationship, you goin pay.

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Thanks for an interesting video. I did the sin sod for my wedding. Wasn’t really asked and it was more of a tradition like a wedding cake I guess. It was shown at the wedding but we kept it after as it was just a show and not a payment. Believe it was 300K. Some of it went to pay for the wedding and the rest me and wife kept. The family never asked for it. My point is, as you try to put it, is that it varies a lot and I think it’s really up to the couple to decide what they want. As with all things regarding money; common sense and responsibility applies.

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My thoughts on marrying a Thai woman and Thai marriage customs. First, KazuhikoShuto's brief and too-the-point comment - "the first step is to gauge the social class and cultural background of the Thai person in question and their family" says it all. It's essential for knowing what you're marrying into.

On the issue of marrying 'bar girls'. This is the basis for the majority of YouTube stories about Thai women, and they're horror stories. However, the several American men I know personally who have married Thai women who are ex-bar girls have had successful marriages. The commonalities are that the women were 'wall flowers', not "hello handsome man" go-getters, and they women immigrated to live with their husbands in the west with their husbands after marriage.

My wife is a college graduate who had a young son and who had divorced her "butterfly" husband. She has a large extended family who are all middle class by Thai standards. Some are better off than others, but all live modestly yet comfortably. Most of them can speak a few words of English, like I can speak only a few words of Thai, but enough that we can exchange pleasantries. We had an engagement dinner with her family, a much reduced version of the traditional engagement ceremony that has not been mentioned here because I was alone in Thailand with no family to represent me. Still, the dinner formalized our engagement from the perspective of my wife's family. At the wedding celebration I experienced an abbreviated version of Khan Maak procession, where I had to pass through several 'gates' to enter the venue. I knew about the tradition of Khan Maak but I was unprepared when one of my wife's aunts demanded 2000 baht to pass through her gate. It took me a few minutes to find someone who could lend me the money! The 'sin saawt' I gave was modest and returned. There was a tying of the 'saai sin', we gave our speeches (mine mostly in English since my Thai is minimal), and a meal but no alcohol. All in all a traditional engagement and wedding in spirit.

— @Yodrak-47

1. Why I use the word “expat”

In Thailand, foreigners are stamped “Non-Immigrant” in their passport. That means you must check in every 90 days, can’t work in jobs reserved for Thais, can’t own land, and can be deported (and banned for 5–10 years) if caught working without a permit. So while I’d love to call myself an immigrant, legally we’re not — hence the word expat.

In Thailand I'm consistently asking how much everything is. Just incase they come to me and ask for money. My girlfriends sister is married to a foreigner as well so he pays for most events but I pay my share when I'm included.

— @fruitloops3718

2. What I do for a living

I run a health foods company here in Thailand and have a work permit that covers all YouTube activities. I’ve paid tax in Thailand for over 10 years — through my own companies (an English school and a jazz lounge), as well as during my career in the 5-star hotel industry (Anantara). And yes — I speak Thai.

Have a budget and stick to it.

— @NigelBarrett

3. Can foreigners own land in Thailand?

No. But a superficies agreement allows you to control the land for 30+ years, and houses here are relatively affordable (1–2 million THB). If you have children, owning a home is essential for their security. Still, it’s smart to keep around 80% of your net worth in high-performance assets outside Thailand.

My partner has been to UK a number of times, and has been exposed to the cost of living here. She constantly has to lie to her family about what I give her which exasperates the problem. Money for westerners from 20 years ago to today has changed , I’m sure there are some with lots, but costs of living has changed. Thai people are ignorant of anything outside of Thailand 🇹🇭 . Everyone or many there is faking what they have or flexing 1/2 truths. It’s the most Fustrsting thing about living with a Thai partner. They think if you flex you have wealth, in reality the most wealthy people never flex, that’s why they have wealth. There is also a sense of entitlement sometimes. I understand the game, but I’m not prepared to play it fully.

In the wedding case shown, I would say the bride became a victim of her own need to flex and gain status. “Pride comes before a fall”.

From my observations many Thais are terrible at financial planning, make decisions before thinking about long term consequences. The need to gain status, drives these poor decisions. That can be said of westerners too, however my parents for example who grew up poor in Bolton / Darwen held onto money all their lives as they remember poverty. But the poorer people in Thailand in many cases seek short term status purchases.

— @marcusbww

4. About my wife

We’ve been together 12 years of my 15+ years in Thailand. She’s a finance graduate, hardworking, traditional, and loyal — she earned more and owned more property than me when we met, and she’s stood by me through both success and struggle.

Team stingy farang 🤣

— @RalphMoon

5. Patreon & Memberships

All Patreon and channel membership income goes directly to supporting our Thai extended family — for food, school supplies, and household needs.

I recommend you find a lady who shows you she wants to preserve resources and sees it as ours.. a partnership

— @livinb450

More User Perspectives

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Every situation is different.
Me: Brit farang and non-farmer Thai lady.
Cohabited together for about two years.
Checked each other out
Had trad ceremony .. showed a golden plate full of Baht.
Most was returned to me soon after.
It is to show villagers she caught a big fish.

The next day was back to normal.

Part of Thai culture.

@15multiventure51
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Ryan I really do enjoy these practical observations my Siamese queen is a diehard German now with Sabai Sabai สบายสบาย inside and the Social System as her new religion.

@darrylpaul7017
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Best solution for no complication: Live common law.

@NickB-yq7ng
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What about our culture? After all? It’s a mixture of two cultures.

@grahamwood156
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Great video. Brilliant channel. Thank you for your effort

@tpwalker69
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I have thought of retiring there but seeing all these videos even the well in salary do bad. The women take it all along with the families. I will take my chancs with a western area thank you .

@jjfalarka8837
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Thai females are always on the lookout for a better deal.

@CDW-n6f
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Chinese guy was never going to pay 😂 should have got 100% of the money up front

@carlosmark9840
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If I was paid a dowry I'd love longtime too

@davidlindburg1921
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I met a woman on line, we had never met and she asked me what type of restaurant will you take me too...that was an immediate un match. ive also had many say they are sad...then im waiting for it lol..
in truth, I have met many many more that dont ask for anything. truth be told, if you go up north where people are poorer and the women are pretty, they get to call the shots. I still spend less on a date here than I would back in the UK.

@jas34-b4w
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SHE couldn't pay the bill, or THEY couldn't pay the bill? Are they still together? Did he pay, or does he still promise to pay off the dowry? What's the current status? Are they separated? Divorced? Maybe, they are together now, but a cloudy outlook going forward? Does he blame her? Does she blame him? Lack of communication? Is it a common situation, where a fatalistic bride signs up for everything smiling vendors and freeloading relatives and hangers-on suggest, and waits to see the level of matrimonial devotion when the shite hits the financial fan? Maybe, the money is ok for his income... Maybe not... Maybe he resents the surprise attack... maybe not... Inquiring minds want to know... I guess they may want privacy more than anything else, for a very touchy situation, even if they are both earnest about preserving their relationship... At least, I think there's a division between those ready to feed 130 people (and with how many courses, burgers or lobsters?), and those who would be fine with 50 people at a maximum...

@addalittleenglish824
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I really enjoy your honesty about interculture relationships. I think some farang are silly and naive. You have to have strong boundaries and dont go after bar girls

@nicksterp2805
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I laugh about this all the time . the first thing i ask what does the girl bring to the table.

@philmcleod42
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Avoid Thailand and instead travel to another Southeast Asian country. Too many Westerners paid a heavy price. Those who enter a marriage with Asian women are frequently in some type of trouble.

@BlueIfel
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Hi Ryan, you and I met almost 3 years ago. Since then I have been asked many times by my wife's friends if I knew for any ferrang available, I always have to say NO sorry I don't.

@videogenie1236
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At the end of the day, Money has some purpose in this type of relationship. Why would a beautiful Thai bride go for a old rickety farang with approaching health issues? Sinsod is like an higher auto Insurance required for an old car.

@asmrnatural2640
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The North Vietnamese seized 12,000 French POWs at Dien Bien Phu in 1952. The POWs were mached into Northern Vietnames to prison camp,s. In 1954 only 4000 French POWs were released. Some of the French Foeigen Legioneres were shipped immediately to Algeria to fight the Algerian rebels.

@cdnsk12
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It should be said that the ‘Sin Sod’ does not apply to every Thai family. Some won’t expect it. If the family requests a dowry then it should be because a Thai man would pay it.

If a Thai man wouldn’t pay a Sin sod, John Q Foreigner shouldn’t pay a Sin Sod either.

@christopherabaddon2311
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Israeli's are not renowed for their genoristy.

@capio78
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My new girlfriend asked for a new bike, i said i would buy one for her in the morning, when she came over the next day she mentioned the new bike, i told her it was down in the garage, when she saw it she told me she didn't mean a push bike, haven't seen her since.

@galdessa1
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I maried in 2011 at the Thunderbird Resorts and Casinos, Rizal. Some guests and family (total 50-60) stayed over, pastor, jeepneys, etc. It cost me in total 80k Baht.

@TINSTAAFL1
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My wife and I woke up one morning, decided it was the day, went down to Udon Thani tessabahn and got ourselves legally married. Sixteen years later.... best 400 baht I've ever spent.

@simonhinchliffe4916
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Nice Hilux😀 your YouTube channel works well apparently.

@TINSTAAFL1
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I need more details… Dowry used to be based on virtue and position in society. So if you already have kids, have been married, older than 30 or are a bar girl, NO dowry!!

@KellyBlankenship
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Ryan, again, always love these videos. They are real, touch grass videos.

@SumDude-b9i
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Met my wife almost 20 Years go and it actually took me almost 4 Years getting married.
I had to learn the Language first, then Culture and Traditions. My wife as well had to learn how
we as Foreigners think and work since she has never been together with one.
She learned how to get out of debt with my help - it was not much - and how to keep Money for herself.
We agreed that I will not deal with any financial Requests from her Family and relatives but she has a monthly allowance to do whatever she wants to do or support. I think this was the optimal solution for me to avoid headaches.
Now, 2 decades later, my wife has saved quite some money and knows exactly when she needs to help, which is not always the case.
When I go to Isaan, we have an agreement that I never open my wallet, either she is using what she has saved or what I have given her in advance. This as well helps her to gain face. I don’t care about gaining or losing face myself.

I as well payed around 1000$ in so called dowry, even we married in my home Country.
They planned some kind of Ceremony but that didn’t then not happen since the Money was already spent on other things and there was nothing left. Her Mother put an Amulet for good Luck around my wrist and that was it.

I never got any thank you from the Family for the 20 years of support or anything but that’s not so important since I get the big „Thank You“ from my wife.

@RockFPV
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My thai wife commented dont be the ATM but better be the Thanakarn

@dwightwillis6526
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Good information 👍

@Thai-Ron
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@bobwelo
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If they’re gonna pay the money back, why don’t they just pay for the wedding ?

@gordon.Jacko1055
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Like you I've seen this happen many times. You're right many naive people think both cultures think the same way until it's too late. My friend did a similar sized wedding as seen in your video. I remember the local trucks pulling up next to the bar and loading up with his crates of beer and disappearing. Then an hour later the mother-in-law wanted another 30k cause the bar was empty. Lol.

@asiaadventurecamping
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as always interesting and informative and entertaining WOW That's a lot of money

@michaelj2528
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i am more of a practical man and unless you can afford to waste money in a big wedding then do not do it . My thoughts are that the bride is a bigger idiot than he is . Its a worldwide problem with women who want to be the centre of attention . Women like to decorate and make a nest generally,. i think that left alone , men would not bother fitting curtains or having cusions etc . Those wedddings are for the mega rich and efeminate men

@julesdowner5585
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First, thank you for making this video on one of my favourite spots, when I visit my girlfriend. Saw it on you channel, and have visited several times since, and it is now the go to place, when we invite her family out :) Second, you are right about communication, but what is even more important is to try and understand the thai culture, and do what you can to respect that. Understanding their ways, and embrace what you can is so important. At least that is my experience, and it does not mean you have to be an ATM or not live by your principles, but if you try to understand them, and then find solutions that both party can live with, it is the way :)

@SvikDK
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Is that Restaurant you are at near Khon Kaen on the ring road?

@Gazzasore
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Thanks ryan

@stewartheather5654
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This woman has tattoos, so she is a prostitute. She is also older, looks like she is in her 30s, so she will have had over a decade of experience scamming westerners. She got out manoeuvred.

@DanSnipe-k8o
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Its pretty simple , if she was marrying a Thai guy what would have been normal ?
I would want to give her something better but no need for 10x or 20x better , thats just showing off on her side and yours.

Not a good start to married life .

YOU need to take control of the situation you earned that money - the family should respect that.

@peterwilliams2252