The Dating Debate: Who Should Pay on a Date?

This is so sad so many men don’t
Know what being a gentleman is

Man pays first date no matter whether it's 20 pounds or 80 pounds. Then after do whatever.

Women that are genuinely interested in you don't care who's paying, they simply do what's needed to hold your interest, and to keep your company. The rest are simply self-centered users with a heavily inflated sense of entitlement. Women who refuse to pay their way should be ditched like the deadbeats losers/users they are. It would be different if we still lived in a time when women couldn't own property or vote. Today many women easily outpace many men in education and income, and with that comes greater degrees of personal responsibility. They only reason that a number of women still get away with sticking the guy with they bill is because many men don't feel like they can keep the woman around if they don't pay to dine and entertain her.

I don’t care how well off you are as a man. Don’t let women manipulate you.
Man yes we should pay for the first date. But that second one yes she’s investing. That’s how you can gage what type of women she is. Most women now days are going out for free meals. So until she Earned you paying every time you go out then I don’t care if you are rich make her ass invest the right women will respect it.

If she never offers to pay stop taking her out and make homecooked meals instead.

After the second date I gift who I like … to show appreciation and take them … and still they complain after the gift …

I agree with what you're saying. As a woman, I feel that when a man pays for the meal, it tells me that he values me. It's not about the money or the food, it's a gentleman's way of saying thank you. The man is courting the woman. On the flip side of things, a lady should always take into consideration the man's budget. Don't order the most expensive thing on the menu and don't choose a restaurant that he can't afford. As for other activities, ladies shouldn't suggest places that are going to hit a man's wallet real hard if he can't afford it. If a man is making a enough money to afford going to the theater, amusement park, etc, I think that he should pay. I think that she should express her gratitude in other ways by helping him cleaning his house, cook a nice meal, bake him a cake or surprise him with something special that he would like. The point is that traditional, masculine men are courting the women. There has to be an appropriate way to go about it. I think that most women want good company, good food and to be respected. In return, a good woman will treat you right. If a man can't afford to pay for the dinner, then he doesn't need to be dating because that would tell me that he's not in it for the long haul.

If the woman is really into you, she will be happy and smiling if you just invite her for a cup of coffee

I think whoever did the asking should do the paying. But, just because I ask a woman out on a date, that doesn't give her the OK to go overboard. I'm not paying for her to get her hair and nails done because those are things she would normally be doing for herself anyway. And, we're going to dinner and maybe a movie or the beach. We're not going on a shopping spree. And, I'm paying for just her and I. I'm not paying for her friends that she decided to invite along. The whole purpose behind a first date is to determine whether or not there will be a second date.

It's nice for a woman to offer to contribute, but a man should pay, especially in the beginning. Women still want men who are providers.

If you invite, you pay simple as that. Women find it attractive when a man pays because men's roles are to provide. They like it when a man takes care of them. That's just the way it is

If i ask her out i pay, she ask me out she pays, if it's mutual we split. Don't go to high end restaurants.

Splitting the bill is great advice if you’re completely divorced from the outcome or if you have a ton of options. Other than that, you’re just making yourself a angry dude lol

This is total bullshit

Who ever arranges the first date should pay however after that both should pay as I feel both would know or even curious to continue dating the person .

i met up with a girl off hinge to get ice cream and go for a walk. 10 mins into the first date after loading up our toppings. i go to pay but she was so quick to already get her card out and pay. I tried to step in to pay but it started getting awkward. starting feeling like we were wrestling to pay so i just let her. anyone know why she would do that?

hell fuking no...ur better off splitting the bill. Guys have been simping for far too long where these 304s have become so self-entitled and expecting the man to pay for the dates.

Never paid for meals or drinks never scored either

Kunny wagons pay for everything

Men should NOT pay for dates. Paying for a date is putting her on a pedestal which is simply a form of simping. Money and love should NOT mix.

It really depends on economics

Absolute garbage!!! Guys this advice is ridiculous. I'm 56, been married and had a few girlfriends and I live in the UK. Most girls will allow you to take care of them for a few dates but once you're in a relationship if that continues then just get rid of them.

Women expect equality in this century, they want equal rights and equal pay. If your girlfriend earns as much as you, or more, then don't get mugged off. In my experience, here in the UK, any girl worth her salt wouldn't allow that to happen.

Don't be a fool. Any decent and caring woman would willingly want to go halves on dates. If they don't then you're being had off. Value yourself and decide what you think is 'right'.
Don't be afraid of having the conversation cos if she's willing to leave the relationship over this issue then she doesn't value you anyway, she just wants a free meal ticket. Don't be a mug guys!

Why can't men and women be equal?

Great ideas. First few dates should not be expensive and the man pays for everything. She can offer to foot the bill on special occasions like birthdays etc. and for some dates.

I'm in my late 40s. I have never ever been on a cofee date, ever and I don't plan on it now. That doesn't make me a gold digger, shallow or arrogant. Why would a First class women get dressed, apply make up, dress to impress, jump in her which the cost of gas is more than likely 3 times the amount t of a cup of coffee. TO sit and engage with a person who doesn't think I'm worth a decent dinner. It's not about money it's the principal. Your not looking for a good woman your looking for a crackhead and for a 5 dollar cup of coffee that's who you need to date a crackhead. I'm not and equalust I'm a traditionalist. Married now my husband can have anything he wants or need, do you honesty think he would have snagged a limestone like me treating me like a 5 dollar crackhead. If 5 dollars is all you have you dont need to be dating , you need Zoom dates and hook-up sites. My husband didn't buy me he courted me , now we court each other equally by choice but cheepos will miss the boat..
Againg it's the principal .

Young Men! Pay for dates strayegically. If you expect something from a woman, pay in reasonable quantities. Respect your boundaries and be rational. It's also good from time to time to say no or something totally unexpected to women to test and experiment in order to learn about coping with women.

Drizzle drizzle women pay

It depends on whether or not he believes a woman should be submissive in a dating relationship.

If a woman values you and likes you,she will contribute financially. If she doesn't, it's just a transaction at that point. Many women will date a man for money and not who he is as a person.

Split the bill-always.

Are you sure? On the 3rd date, invite her over? I'd rather do something, like a sport, it doesn't have to be hard, like bocce, pickleball, biking, etc. No way, no, how I'm going to your place early on.
BTW, def, I'm not a feminist here, I like our gender roles. My late husband took the lead and earned way more than me.
I've only dated men who do.
I do sometimes pick up the tab, on special occasions or for example, I'll pick up thr bar tab if we were waiting for a table, etc.
Oh annnnd, thank him. Be grateful and affectionate. Show him you value him.💕💕💕

Sure I'd like to pay every time. But, it's so expensive and usually goes to waste. So I go to cheap/free things. But that doesn't work either.

Who pays or tries to on a first/second date is a great indicator who you're about to possibly get involved with. I agree that first dates should be short and cheap. There is a great line from A Bronx story: "It costed you $10 to get rid of him." I usually wait to see if she's gonna offer to pay at all, then I suggest they take care of the tip either way. Women have lost the old art of team work, hence they need to be guided and taught again.

The woman should pay the whole bill. However, I’m ok with going dutch if everything else is great.

Sounds like a "TRADEOFF". Can't help but think he makes it sound eerily similar to prostitution at the end.

Feminism is about women having choices. Women today still work 3x harder investing their time, heart & energy into the relationship, family & to keep their job. Most men will invest significant time, money & effort into keeping & securing clients. Her we go again - men not only expecting a financial exchange....but still treating women like a commodity. At what point in time will men admit what a good woman has to offer you is priceless to what most men will EVER give. Don't romance women, celebrate them or treat them special - keep them less than anything else you value. Make sure they know your giving nothing more than historically most men give = keep treating us less than your dog. Because I know doggie doesn't pay for his treats.

I always pay. However if the date is her idea; Ill either counter her paying with an act of service I want. Or just let her pay.

The first date is also a test. Will she submit to you paying even if she insists? And also, be aware that some moral women will oay because they're not interested.

The men should pay regardless of who makes what. Women are more on demand, only unattractive women would agree to go Dutch. If he can’t take a girl out, the he shouldn’t.

Does her intuition not tell her that the man here is not financially better off? It is a red flag to me that it does not occur to her to pitch in. She doesn’t need to pull out a calculator and figure out to the penny what is fair. But if she wants to reveal something good about herself, then she should automatically feel better psychologically to contribute.

after dating for 6 months , should the bill be split on those dates?

Okay this was confusing at first - but the jist is that the man pays

Man should pay only if woman is virgin, widow or prostitute

Women give it up to vibrators for free. So do men have to pay for it?