The rise and fall of Tinder: what really killed the app?

Tinder died when they stopped the free super swipe

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Dating apps really enabled hook-up culture.
It's immoral and it's not a bad thing if these dating apps die.

Michael, your work is outstanding, but please use DISinterested and UNinterested correctly. Just a bugaboo of mine.

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One HUGE part you missed are all the scams and fake profiles on Tinder compared to the others. It’s unusable.

Met my wife in 2016 on tinder. It's been great. 10 years and 2 daughters... It felt very lucky as I had never had only had a couple of matches on there and one bad dating experience.

It was definitely not set up with the best of intentions and it is weird how millennials, particularly late millennials, were so glued to their screen and unwilling to interact that the apps felt like the only choice. I was very much afraid of instant rejection like the rest of them. To this day I don't know where that came from and never had to grow in that regard.

An example of the paradox of choice - having unlimited options theoretically maximises consumer welfare (classical economics) but abundance of choices actually leads to decision paralysis and reduced consumer welfare.

I wonder if there will be a story walk about the rise and fall of this channel one day?

The storytelling is great - so fluent when out on a walk. The music is a bit annoying though.

The problem with these dating apps isn't that women just rake in the likes from men and make no reciprocal effort. It's that too many men ruin it by swiping mass numbers of women in the futile hope that a small fraction of them will respond. If men were more thoughtful and discriminating, women wouldn't be so overwhelmed with spam. Of course, the dating apps could easily fix this by limiting the number of likes you can make per hour.

Facebook dating took over because its free

Great video. Thank you Michael 👍

It's like OKC, death by monitization

I think if the owner's yacht is longer than 20 meters the service is overpriced or even fraud.

I was on it for a while back in 2012 and it was frustrating experience. Most girls used heavy filters and none of the ones that I managed to go on a date with (which weren't many) didn't look anything like on their profile pictures. But that okay, everyone wants to presnt themselves in a positive light.
The problem was that for guys it was really difficult to get a match. First I didn't understand why, I am not a bad looking guy so I was puzzled and questioned my self esteem until I shared a flat with two females and I couple of times I watched them use Tinder. THEY WERE EXTREMELY SELECTIVE - like the would reject tens of guys for some ridiculously small flaws, normal OK looking dudes. They didn't even bother reading the profile descriptions. The girls themselves weren't supermodels, just your nomal looking early 30s women.

At this point I realised that I fight the impossible fight because someone can reject me because they do not like the color of my T-shirt on one of the photos.

I don't know, maybe women had better experience with the app but all the guys I spoke to who also used Tinder were frustrated with it.

I am currently on Plenty of Fish. I’ve been on here about 2 1/2 three months. I was on a couple other ones before it’s all a scam. The only people that reached out to you are scammers. I’ve only met two real people in six months. It’s a huge waste of time I’m 58 years old dating isn’t worth it.

GenZ - Meeting someone on an app is gross
Also GenZ - Gross, some creepy stranger started talking to me in public
Still GenZ - Why do I feel so alone?

As a man, tinder is an alright experience I travel for work and often move , I would say I’m nonchalant.
I’ve done well with the app
I’ll make active for periods of spontaneity.. and it’s done its
Job for
me , if I’m planning a night out / trip or last minute date night

Benefits

If you move to a new city it does
Help with meeting new people and developing relationships. Even encounters are good

And even with the dates I had
I usually maintained some form of relationship

Cons

The issue with tinder from what I’ve seen, is most woman hate the app too many creepy dudes overtly sending’s messages, causing overwhelming feeling , there isn’t a way to create individuality in communication
These genuine women leave the app.. which only leaves the women who have a more superficial appetite.

On the guys perspective, would say too much woman with OF accounts / or just trying to get money / followers . I’ve had to kinda pre screen my matches .. I think most guys would become negative just being asked for gas money often from their matches

If your aren’t good looking as a man the app does punish those people , algorithm is based on showing profile with high interactions and shadow banning profiles with less . For someone who is good looking/ or has a profile that shows successs .. it creates the 20% of males who are benefiting


In summary the good guys /good
Women leave the app leaving behind a cesspool of cynical guys and gold digging girls.

Online dating is so inorganic and pathetic. I’m embarrassed for people who reveal that that’s how they met, especially young, single people with no kids. Go get out there and interact with people!

I met my current husband on match 10 years ago. I met my late husband on match too. I am the unicorn I guess.

Studied this at Babson where I learned that the engineers once famously said when pondering the mate fulfillment paradox of Tinder that they should “Keep This Fucker Coming Back”. I think about that.

All these dating apps have turned into micro transactions garbage. Pay to like, pay to be seen (supposedly). There greed became the downfall of their company and nobody here will feel sorry for it. And it only takes a few bad apps to ruin it for all apps.

I'm a millennial. By the time Tinder rolled out I was over online dating. I don't mind being rejected in person but rejected online is another thing. My strength has always been in how I present myself in person and you don't get that online. It's just a lot of people who have the option to be very picky instead of taking a leap and not judging a person off their profile. Meeting people in person is very important. Idk maybe I'm in the minority here but I would rather strike out with someone I don't know in a strange place than spend time creating a profile that no one looks at because they skipped past my profile picture. The same applies to me passing on someone because they didn't appear to be super attractive in their pics which meant that I wasn't giving anyone a chance and possibly missing out on a good match. The whole thing actually killed my self esteem for a little bit until I ditched the idea altogether. I'm better off without it. It was actually a good life lesson to get into it and get out of it.

Older millennial I met my husband on university and was already married by 2011. I had friends who used the apps - it never seemed appealing. Especially if you were not conventionally attractive.

It isnt dating is Hook up

Good walk!

Someone told me this wasn't actually designed for mostly men in existing relationships to have extramarital affairs. I was shocked! Like when I found out people use the internet to book holidays & stuff & not just for viewing porn!

Millennials aren’t afraid of rejection. Where’d you get that from? We were probably the last generation to actually meet people in clubs, parties, and bars.

Swiped "Right" on this one!

The sound effects are annoying

Its simple: cost and value. Paying 40 a month is ridiculous and every decent feature is behind a paywall. Free options are pointless. Also..spam. Fake profiles invade..game over

Here's a perspective you may consider discussing if you make further videos on the subject: while men are NOT picky when swiping and offering potential partners a first chance at a date, the roles flip when it comes to actually establishing a committed relationship. Men are notoriously picky with whom they dedicate their time and resources too.

I totally agree with all of your premises on Tinder, in any case. I stopped renewing my platinum upgrade (or logging into the app at all) when I realized how little they actually tried to filter out fake profiles, and after being ghosted one too many times. Ghosting is always, always rude.

Tinder was hit/miss. most wanted to wine and dined with 0 "guarantees".
I'd say 70% success rate

Currently on it garbage with the changes they made over decades now it has AI featurings they also removed contact to exchange numbers in messaging im so pissed

"Exacerbation" sounds like when you CAN'T get a date.

We hear too many horror stories now about romance scams, etc. when people trust the wrong person and lose everything. This is just a playground for fraud.

My take is a bit different regarding the demise of Tinder. When I was single, I had Tinder, Match, Coffee Meets Bagel and maybe one other dating app. Tinder has always been looked upon as the "hookup" app, not to find a permanent partner but a quick fix - hence, no profiles or any info on the person except their picture. For me, it quickly became a "ghetto" app on my phone that just took up space, after I swiped right several times with few good responses. Match and CMB was more promising, with you at least having the ability to communicate to your potential match. So Tinder was fun in the beginning, but became vaporware in the end. My current partner and I met via Match.