We Need To Talk About James Gunn's DCU...

It's dead.

Bring back snyder

Marvel is better than dc the comic were better

I love man of steel

The gunns got to go

I saw Superman 2025. It had it's moments, yet it had laughable ones too. Such as Superman getting knocked by the dog Krypto. Superman starts screaming, crying, and Lex Luthor's theme music. Has a cringy dubstep song. Lex sounds a lot like Roy Marcus Cohn from The Apprentice 2024. Played by Jeremy Strong. I thought the film ripped off themes from that film. I also have seen The Apprentice 2024 too. Such as Superman facing backlash from the public. Much like how Donald Trump did. Played by Sebastian Stan, while Ivana in the film, is more like Lois Lane from that film. Fred Trump is more akin to Jor-El, while Mary Anne is more akin to Lara Lor-Van. Russell is kinda like Angela Spica/The Engineer and Ultraman. A close ally to Roy, who's revealed to be a closeted gay. I will not to talk much about The Apprentice 2024. As I find it has better political and philosophical beliefs than Superman 2025. Superman 2025, still falls into power fantasy vibes. Here's the quote line from The Apprentice 2024: The Three Rules of Winning
• Attack, Attack, Attack: Never stay on the defensive; always be the one striking first or counter-attacking with greater force.
• Admit Nothing, Deny Everything: Never acknowledge a mistake or wrongdoing, regardless of the evidence.
• Always Claim Victory: No matter how badly you are beaten or what the actual outcome is, never admit defeat—you must always state that you won. And here's the quote line from Superman 2025: Krypton's Secret Reveal
• Jor-El: "The people there are simple and profoundly confused; weak of mind, spirit, and body. Lord over the planet as the Last Son of Krypton.
• Lara Lor-Van: Dispatch of anyone unable or unwilling to serve you, Kal-El. Take as many wives as you can so your genes and Krypton’s might and legacy will live on in this new frontier.
• Jor-El: Do us proud, our beloved son. Rule without mercy." A good effort in the Superman film. But, it feels like another James Gunn project. I find the reveal, as a rip-off idea from that film! I think The Apprentice, did these form of belief views a lot better. I'm not a fan of Donald Trump. At least he acts like the character from that time period. He's not some manchild that's cringe, nor starts acting way too over-the-top. That would feel very out of place. He's shown to be smarter, than many people had realized about him at first. He's a character, who is actually representing the human way. While Superman from Superman 2025. Is mostly a manchild, gets knocked by the dog jokes, more as a self-intsert to Peter Quill from the Marvel Cinematic Universe, and Patton Oswalt. He doesn't feel or act like Superman at all. The Apprentice 2024, knows how to describe the story of America. On how the people and society, were about to lose their own sense of kindness, innocence, and hope. Some of them still cling to those values. Even some refuse to change at all! The Apprentice does have themes of hope, kindness, and is more relevant in today's society. The Apprentice knows when to handle these themes better than Superman 2025. When it comes to politics, philosophy, commentary, human characters, and what it means to be human. It's not a blockbuster, it's a standalone film that isn't setting up a cinematic universe. The film does has easter eggs, the humor is clever without being distracting, and references to real world events. They aren't made for fan service, humor, or the sake of nostalgia. Superman 2025 on the other hand, wants to be a cinematic universe, is set in the present day, and a power fantasy. It doesn't understand what Donald Trump really was about. The social commentary and critique, missed the mark. It deserve a lot better than how James Gunn inserted it. I find it as a rip-off of the former film. Which came out the previous year. As the former film is a period piece, not a power fantasy, and the serious moments weren't done for shock value. It shows that personal consequences matter. Walter, who's accused by Roy. For cheating on his wife. As a form of blackmailing by Roy Cohn. Walter owns a pornographic photo he keeps it for himself. A secret and an item momento of his. Like I said, this is not done for shock value. Walter wasn't really that bad of a person. He's not some caricature, he is human. He thought he was doing the right, and denies having a relationship with another man in secret. A character, I would rather find someone to trust and sympathize for this. People don't stay like that for the rest of their lives! That's really ridiculous and very outdated in my view. People change over time. That's how the world works. Roy tells Walter, to say hi to his wife and kids. While Donald observes the scene, and Walter leaves the diner. That was the diner scene. And he doesn't make jokes about them, or would even try to use them as bait. Walter is made exclusively for the film. The moment is background noise, or a random subplot. It doesn't feel forced. It feels thoughtful and deep. By contrast, Lex Luthor, does the same false accusations to Perry White. To me, it comes off as just random, forced, and not as a philosophy battle. Lex does it because, boredom and reasons! Lex ends up making jokes about people's loved ones. Which ruins any form of intelligence, that describes Lex Luthor. That is something Donald Trump wouldn't be doing at all. There's no time for social media, talking about "punk rock, or sipping cocoa". The Apprentice has the line of Ronald Reagan known for saying "Let's Make America Great Again". See, that's being punk rock right there! The most punk rock quote ever!! The soundtrack has music needle drops too. It doesn't come as cringe, forced, or disrupting at all. It fits the mood right, and the acting is done well. While the latter, is a blockbuster, there's too much humor. They talk about being kind to others, as punk rock. The line was "Maybe that's the real punk rock." That line, made cringe so hard in laughter!! Which can disrupt the more serious moments and tension. And sets up a cinematic universe. At then end of both films. Both Trump and Superman make a choice about their own actions, of what they are. Not being forced into moral perfection. The the two protagonists from these different films, realize that their past is only a momento. The past is just a distant memory as well. Not tied permanently in all of us! There's a time to revisit the past, as a memory lane. They change the past, for their own beliefs when needed. Superman uses it with the video recordings, of his adopted parents. Whereas Donald Trump, goes to volunteer for surgery. And meets writer Tony Schwartz, known for his autobiography The Art of the Deal. And appropriates Cohn's rules into his very own valid reasons. Superman wants to use his morals about hope, and kindness. That makes Superman a hero. As for Donald Trump, he does that too. But, his morals in the way of get the job done by any means necessary approach. Trump felt more of an anti-hero. The end to both these films. I have enjoyed both films after one viewing. That's all I said here. Happy Superman Day!

Me and my girlfriend recently watched all of the DCAU. It started with Batman and she liked Batman and Superman already but other than Wonder Woman and Flash she didn’t know anyone else. She loved the Batman animated series though, but she was worried without Batman around she wouldn’t care. Then after Batman we watched Superman and she ended up really liking that but said she missed Batman. We get to justice league and she’s skeptical but by the end of the seasons she’s asking questions about the expanded universe beyond Batman and Superman. Then we get to JLU and after finishing that and then Batman Beyond she said she wanted to watch it all over again from the start.

My very long point is it all started with Batman, without Batman me and her wouldn’t have found out about all these wonderful characters, but Batman introduced them to us in a way, and the DCU starting without him feels like a major mistake in terms of general interest.

Shit was meh but reboot the universe nah Superman was good but they need course correction no reason for b-c list hero get a movie before the A listers

To simplify this video. James Gunn needs to establish popular characters first in order to get that trust to DC fans. Then after that he should introduce lesser characters.

I'm recommending everyone to this video. You are 100% right.

Well if you dont care about plot and things making even a little logical sense then yeah I guess Supergirl isnt that bad. Otherwise it would def bother you if Supergirl spent the entire film moralizing how you shouldnt kill the bad guy and then ends up killing the bad guy herself at the end.

I just saw the movie today, & I personally enjoyed it. It's not the greatest comic book movie ever made, I'll admit that. Also, I think basing the story on the Woman of Tomorrow comic would've worked better as a series than a movie, also keep it live-action. As much as I love the new Superman movie, I agree with you, I think Gunn & Safran should've focused on one project (Superman) first, then taken their time building the rest of the franchise instead of rushing multiple projects. The MCU & Star Wars are great examples that strong, lasting franchises take time to build, not rush. No hate btw, I still think it can still be great & I really hope it will, because I'm tired of reboots.

I do have much hope for this universe. It's all downhill from here.

I don’t get how super girl is a start to the new dcu.