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Why Do Shadow Pokemon KEEP Returning?

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Shadow Pokemon aren't just from Pokemon Colosseum, and Gale of Darkness. Their Lore exists in Pokemon Legends ZA, Pokemon Go and even the Pokemon horizons anime. So Why do these Dark Pokemon keep returning and what are their secrets and hidden story. The lore of Shadow Pokemon from these Gamecube games ties well in with Mega evolution, its no surprise they'll be the new pokemon games releasing on Switch 2 and on Nintendo switch online

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Is the ruined state of Orre because of the destruction that happened before Pokopia?😮

— @Ralts_Fury_72

More shadow Pokemon theories over on https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLDKvYXGYRBCyLqVLenR5ZSEdcOjQqplo2

Special thanks to the artists

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Broo wtf happened to the partner video to this bout Illumina

— @Blakk_Burn17

Calssic Sugimori style Thumbnail - @soyalexalan

Editing by @theruinmaniacfiles1418

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Oh shadow Pokémon… if marshadow was ever a shadow Pokemon is it double the shadow? 🤔

— @PokeRiderM

Footage some sourced from @Mixeli

Music some sourced from Braxton Burks https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCCCMGWpbgh42gtCYr06ovIw

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shadow mons really should be alternate forms from held items idk why they havent done that yet. like how giratina form changes with its orb

lugia- dark wing
mewtwo-rage stone

— @ZeroOmega-vg8nq

More User Perspectives

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Honestly I wouldn't mind if we got a Legends game set in the Orre region. Definitely would love to explore the region more and possibly have new Orre regional and convergent variations of pokemon we know.

@lostfoxofthe90s
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I've always believed in the theory of Team Rocket being the true masterminds behind the Shadow Pokemon phenomenon. Team Rocket as always seen Pokemon as tools, something that could be weaponized for their own cause. My take on it is that Mewtwo was the first step into making the ultimate Shadow Pokemon. Something they created artificially with the sole purpose of being a mindless, fighting machine. It then redirected that anger to cause havoc like we saw in the first Pokemon Movie. Lovrina simply perfected the concept when she made XD001. It just makes sense for Giovanni to either be the true mastermind behind Cipher, or funding their research for his own benefit.

@artsyxfox
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The idea that Eagen is Ash would put the game in a timeline close to when you think the destruction of Pokopia is happening, which would be consistent with what Oree is experiencing.

@tacobowler
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What about the latest installment of lore in the pokemon world about “rage” pokemon, the substance from Laqua.

@jordanwillis5757
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24:48 this is, in hindsight, an INCREDIBLY funny statement

@DroppedMyMarbles
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One spinoff you didn't mention: Shadows of Almia. Team Dim Sun (yes it's a stupid name) corrupts Pokemon by using Gigaremo machines which have shards of a dark crystal within them. The Pokemon cannot be captured normally through a Ranger's Styler.

@KikiYushima
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Well of course he’s Cross all the time it’s his name

@TimesAero
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because they look cool and make money

@REALnegativeTouch
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This is unnecessary. He should be drawing articles of impeachment on The Pedo President and his entire administration

@Princesspandapop
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Had to revisit this video, love the concept and been speculating... I'd like there to be further development of the shadow concept. In pokemon Go shadow pokemon are amongst the best yet you can never get rid of the option to purify them. I'd like there to be a final shadow form or gimmick akin to mega evolution where for example you max level a lugia or mewtwo and they turn into their shadow forms from gale of darkness or pokken respectively...

@karlembleton4042
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Alder's Japanese name, Adeku, is quite similar to Dakim

@aero01_1
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I hate shadow silveon

@kelseyjones4576
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24:50 Pokepia wants a yarn😂😂😂

@Gazzarix
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Because people liked shadow lugia

@KirbsDeConz
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So, this is entirely fanon, no canon here whatsoever, in a pokemon tabletop im running, theres 3 real "categories" of shadow pokemon.

"Natural" shadow pokemon, like those in colosseum, which (usually) only know shadow rush.

Artificial shadow pokemon, are like the ones im XD GoD, having more corrupted moves than just the blind rage attack.

And a third kind formed through corrupted infinity energy, a result of me incorporating the Neo Ghetsis lore from Lockstin & Gnoggin.

Also, personally, i think crossinf the canons is perfectly valid. Its not black and white (badumtss), theres a lot of unfilled time and spaxe in every continuity shown. Whats to say theres not a dr. Namba in the game timelines that just never fell into the narrow lens of a protagonists journey

@tefnutofhoney2832
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Maybe the real reason the legendary birds of fire, ice and lightning can defeat Lugia is because Lugia once went rogue and forced Ho-oh to revive 3 birds caught in the Path of this Lugia, as a result the 3 legendary birds of fire, ice, and lightning could bring peace to the world. However, the same can be said in reverse, if the 3 legendary birds go rogue then Lugia's song plus the help of an aurora user human could restore balance to prevent destruction. It seems it can go both ways, depending on how you look at it. Thus, the known pokemon 2000 the power of one.

@HellmareYuma
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How do people forget Greevil saying "Fall Prey to Shadow Lugia!"?

@WaterKirby1994
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10:06 I still have that Dark Celabi card! I remember pulling it from the pack and literally screaming lol

@markwilburn1218
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24:49 comes back 5 months later holding Pokopia :)

@joelsterne
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I've literally blasted through all your vids in the last few weeks and just today realized that your "intro jingle" is literally just the first part of Lugias song... the song i literally used as a lullaby for YEARS after the film released and i got the vhs for my 10th birthday the same year. Utterly dissapointed in myself.

@crackpiipe
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Did anyone else put the video to 0.25 speed at the beginning and kept clicking pause the seen the quote "Mysterious creature" when it's corrupted... Please tell me it wasn't just me

@BloodMoon-jd1fk
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What if there was a first mew to ever go shadow

@GloriousDutchPancakes
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This phenomenon kinda reminds me of rogue mega evolution, the pokemon being forced with mysterious energy that forces mega evolution against their will. Keep in mind that mega evolution can cause extreme pain on its own normally, without a trainer to help during mega evolution the pokemon would be in even more pain..

@gurtplayz99
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cuz their kinda cool

@cannedbread1217
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Pokémon rangers had the villains use strange machines to make Pokémon go berserk and violent.

@The_hot_blue_fire_guy
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You NEED to make a video on Primal Dialga! I DO NOT understand it lore-wise.

@EternaMav
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Could primal dialga from pokemon mystery dungeon explorers of sky count as a shadow form for dialga? 🧐 (I know it’s not from the main line games but neither is shadow Mewtwo or shadow Lugia. So it’s fair game 🤷)

@gabrielplayz8647
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What if the Orre region is another universe like an Ultra Wormhole world??

@EddW2Ds
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29:19 Orre is post apocalypse Jhoto? I did always think the one guy was Ash, I assumed that was cannon till I blocked the game from my memory. (I get hyper attached to virtual pets, like they're real pets. Cousin deleted my save file, which my brain reacted as you would if 40 something of your beloved pets were killed all at once. It's a root of a lot of psychological issues)

@rmt3589
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I don't say much but I remember the time I tuned into one of your live streams when i was still in school and i won 2 cards you signed yourself a Fire energy and a Remoraid. I'm using the Fire energy in my Favorite fire deck i have and the Remoraid is still sleeved and safe to this day. Back then I had the handle Captain Kerbabble. I love your work. It's signed BKT from when you were Birdkeeper Toby!!

@ViscerialArc
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So ashs pikachu is an ex light pikachu, explains alot

@pokemaster729
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Was surprised Mays combusken didn't get mentioned

@Starfloof
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1:23 imagine if sometimes Sophie just has an incorrect feeling about someone and you end up stealing legitimate regular Pokemon lol

@baddragonite
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Pokepedia has something to say about post apocalyptic game maybe

@clarksbar711
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With the trailer of the new za dlc, I wouldn’t be surprised if we were getting some form of shadow Pokémon again

@MrDewknight
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Dude you are my favorite!!! Insanely inspired. I resonate with this so much. I’ve always thought of myself as a Jigglypuff master, which I’m not saying I am not, but I’m really starting to realize that I just might be a Mega Diancie trainer in the making all along. If that makes any sense… all that to say. Thank you!!!

@ThePinkRVN
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My head cannon is that Pokémon go though the suffering of mega evolution to help the trainer they trust.

@CorterzReborn0
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I would adore a Legends Orre game

@andrewpowell4184
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Re the conflicting info on whether mega is good or bad... The writers for Legends ZA have managed to thread the needle between Sun & Moon, where the writer had an agenda and tried to portray mega evolution as painful and bad, and the anime and gen 6 games, where it is a sign of immense bond between trainer and Pokemon and generally beneficial. So now the reconstructed version seems to have gen 6 correct generally, but rogue mega evolution is bad per SM’s messed up pokedex.

@Fuzzypaws
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For a sec i thought u where hinting that orre was post apocalyptic johto… i was about to cry

@grimangel4432
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Sick outfit

@Ignorant_Art
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Yo this kinda sounds like laquium from Pokémon horizons.

Heck, shadow mewtwo from pokkén even has a crystal coming out of his body, kinda like how laquium crystalizes on the pokémon's body.

@MightyReeN
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i call the Shadow Pokémon from Colosseum and Gale of Darkness True Shadow Pokémon as the others feel like attempts to make people for get about those 2 games and to make people relate Shadows to Go or Pokken with Mewtwo

@BlazeDarkfang
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If these games were made later maybe we could've gotted a dark zygarde or something since it is too a guardian, no?

@marcopala5432
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1: They're dark
2: They're edgy
3: They're cool



4: Sealing your heart is actually pretty easy.

@nullpoint3346