Cenk Uygur: Trump vs Harris, Progressive Politics, Communism & Capitalism | Lex Fridman Podcast #441
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Cenk Uygur is a progressive political commentator and host of The Young Turks.
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0:00 - Introduction
2:03 - Progressivism
8:12 - Communism
23:00 - Capitalism
29:03 - Corruption
33:49 - Money in politics
50:36 - Fixing politics
1:09:47 - Meritocracy & DEI
1:20:45 - Far-left vs far-right
1:55:19 - Donald Trump
2:15:36 - Joe Biden
2:34:03 - Bernie Sanders
2:47:32 - Kamala Harris
2:55:00 - Harris vs Trump presidential debate
3:08:31 - RFK Jr
3:18:12 - The Young Turks
3:26:25 - Joe Rogan
3:36:05 - Propaganda
3:43:22 - Conspiracy theories
3:51:09 - Israel-Palestine
4:00:56 - Hope
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You stated that the Democrats and Republicans hadn’t figured it out deep throat said follow the money. How long is that been?
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Very,very COOD
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Looks like corporate board room control media?
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Look at it is difficult to understand.
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No not a wright way to steal!!!!
Media control!!
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Guy graduated from Wharton business and Columbia Law School. I’m not left or right , but it’s been obvious he is informed.
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This aged like milk
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Well I do like what and how mr. Cenk Uygur presents and I for sure agre with the basis of his arguments.
I do not know him, I do not know his point of wiew on his own ancestral history or why he ACTUALLY calls his organisation "Young Turks" (I'll present my guess) but I do not like the name at all.
The original revolutionary movement Jöntürkler in Ottoman Empire had similar ideals - they wanted nationalism (meaning democratic nation state) and less coruption (which was insanely bad - to the point it went to be normalized) - hence the guess.
But over not-so-long time they went from nationalism to NATIONALISM (siding with Prussia in WWI, creating militaristic, proto-fascistic state, Armenian Genocide... ...historical causes seem very complicated, but the party at least "allowed"* it...)
And later, their political decendants sided with Third Reich in WWII - meaning despite being Turkey officialy neutral, they deported many local Jews and were localy helping Germany "diplomaticaly"... ...read "spies". And yes, during the end of WWII Turkey started miraculously helping the Jews and sided officialy with the Allies...).
Over time (let's say cca 1908 onward) that government became almost as corrupt as the one the original Jöntürkler overthrown.
So, the history of the movement which's name he seemingly proudly uses is almost absolute example of good guys being corrupt over time. (It took only two to three electorial times btw.).
I am watching it in the moment and I hope that Lex at least asks Mr. Uygur what he thinks about the history of the original "Young Turks"...
0:00 - Introduction
2:03 - Progressivism
Someone should tell Cenk that communism has never devolved into authoritarianism because there has literally never been a communist society in the history of human civilization. Communism requires two things definitionally - the ownership of the means of production by the working class or the proletariat, and the complete dissolution of the state. If these two things do not coexist simultaneously, by definition, it cannot be communism and there has been no society in the history of human civilization that has had both those things in place simultaneously. There's hardly any societies that have even had one or the other achieved.
He should also not talk about "human nature." No one should talk about human natural unless you are a philosopher, psychologist, or anthropologist. Otherwise, you don't actually know what tf you're talking about when you say "human nature." It's just a buzz phrase that you think you understand. Hardly anyone who has ever said that actually knows what the "nature" even is in "human nature."
8:12 - Communism
23:00 - Capitalism
Another polarizing dweeb with vocal cords.
29:03 - Corruption
33:49 - Money in politics
In the Great War, Armenians fought against the Turks for their freedom in alliance with the Russian Empire, the Unity and Progress Party decided to exile the Armenians from Eastern Türkiye to Syria until the end of the war in order to solve the Armenian problem, and aimed to resettle them in Eastern Türkiye when the war ended, but Kurdish and Arab chauvinists supported by the Allied Powers took advantage of the exile and massacred 900 thousand Armenian civilians, and Turkish soldiers who tried to protect them were martyred.
50:36 - Fixing politics
1:09:47 - Meritocracy & DEI
Lex, Harris wasn’t a “communist”. It’s almost like you have no idea what “communism” is. Laughable. 🤦🏼♂️
1:20:45 - Far-left vs far-right
1:55:19 - Donald Trump
Great conversation.
2:15:36 - Joe Biden
2:34:03 - Bernie Sanders
I can't believe this man got a stage to spill his Jihadist propaganda!
2:47:32 - Kamala Harris
2:55:00 - Harris vs Trump presidential debate
3:08:31 - RFK Jr
3:18:12 - The Young Turks
3:26:25 - Joe Rogan
3:36:05 - Propaganda
3:43:22 - Conspiracy theories
3:51:09 - Israel-Palestine
41:28 thats how CAPITALISM works, same as how the communist party censored content
4:00:56 - Hope
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I don't know about economics but Cenk has very good read of media and politics
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But what you're describing Cenk is the nature of CAPITALISM. Corporations are the RESULT OF CAPITALISM. Your idea of capitalism is an idea that has never existed
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Communism could have been not human nature so far ... until evolved human society develops it
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I was once a follower of Cenk Uygur but recently I have changed my little
Mind when I think of cenk whatever? And Lex Frimand whose name I just realized was spelt like a idiotic superhero but I digress not in favor of these propagandists but in support of the common people who want to live in a society where they don’t have to feel less than anyone else but want to know that their efforts are made to be known.
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Okay, I tried to listen to this idiot. What became just too irritating to continue was the constant "Right" after his every other sentence, which were invariably statements that were NOT RIGHT!!!
@dinacox1971I absolutely love Cenk here …. He is so great in this interview
@KristinaL-qm6isCenk is a parasite
@mokzkieI'm sad to say Cenk was correct. Trump just sold out Ukraine just like Cenk said he would.
@acasualviewer5861Lex, your intros... dog. You care too much. Stop the "I love you all". Stop the "I'll do better". If people don't like you, they won't watch. That's their problem. You have nothing to apologize for. Just be you and stop caring so much. Praise does not make you better nor blame make you less.
@Order66Surviver9:51 Pfff, if we just act like are DNA, we'll all turn into MONKEY'S! Why not try to be better?
@DrukMaxListening to this after the election and hearing Cenk say what a good VP pick Tim Waltz will be is funny. He does make some other fair points on money in politics though.
@robzombie5928Cenk Yygur is a Communist Propagandist speading lies, hate and confusion to the American people!!!
@timj.8056Lol so blacks are getting arrested more than whites over weed not that they commit over 50% of the murders at only 15% of the population!! This is the dishonest bullshit that makes this guy full of shit.
@joshuabrzezinski2828Based!!
@TeringulusWhat you Americans call "lobby" would lend you a criminal record and some heavy jail in most of the EU, but 100% in any of the "backwards" eastern European countries where "lobbying" is actually incriminated under the penal code as - roughly translated - "influence trafficking" which can land you 7+ years in prison. For us, it's baffling to see how "the land of the free" is legally running the most corrupt political system in all of western culture, yet has the balls to talk about corruption with regards to any - I repeat - ANY other western country.
@duke6800Free Kurdistan
@electro5175I enjoyed it until the end when Cenk said that his ancestor was responsible for the fall of Constantinople. FU is what I say to that.
@QuantumBracedI’ve been a long-time listener, Lex, and have always admired your unbiased approach to interviews. Recently, though, it feels like your personal ideologies are influencing the discussions, impacting the neutrality that made your work stand out. Please refocus on staying impartial.
@MoorbloomVery good interview if you want to hear a logical perspective supporting the left.
I wanted to say one thing about offering paid maternity leave as a federal policy:
1. If I’m homeless and begging for money and a man gives me a bag of hotdogs and I sell them then hire someone, how can I afford to pay them 8 weeks maternity leave? He says that if a company has less than a certain number of employees they may get a pass for this, but doesn't that just mean we are basically paying the employees less? Companies can’t always afford to pay for the moral accolades of offering the employee all kinds of bells and whistles.
2. Government has never shown the capacity to manage large entitlement funds without bankrupting them.
So why can’t we just realize that companies pay competitively and the employees work at their own free will. SO if my hotdog stand employee works at only $5 an hour when he could go across the street and get $7.25, often it’s because he’s getting another form of social reciprocity by working with me or he’s willing to bet that getting in on the ground floor will get him a corner office in the approaching reign of the hotdog empire. It’s not my responsibility to pay the employee for non work related things. I don’t like self righteous moral accusations about “I’m supposed to suckle you from cradle to grave”. I think they are often mired in illogical conclusions about what the world is.
"I'm never going to allow this wanna-be tyrant to go back into the White House". That aged well, didn't it?
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