Inside a Spotify Artificial Streaming Report
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Spotify has been cracking down on artificial streaming lately, in this video I walk you through an artificial streaming report from Spotify.
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I've looped some of my songs on Spotify to see the listening now numbers move up. I was under the assumption that Spotify didn't count my streams but just the streams by new listeners who see my songs under now playing. Maybe I am not supposed to do this?
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I received a warning notification from my distributor that one of my songs would be removed from Spotify because of artificial streaming. This was very strange because I have never used paid marketing services or botted playlists. I believe that I have been the target of an artificial stream strike etc which I've heard from other artists. My distributor support strongly advised me to contact Spotify to stop this. When I finally contacted Spotify support, they blamed me for this and gave me this copy-pasted information that I shouldn't use paid marketing services or artificial stream playlist even though I've never used one! And when I asked them if my music is still in these kinds of playlists and asked for help to remove them to prevent further problems after a couple minutes of conversation they just suddenly without warning cut off the whole conversation by closing the chat leaving me without any answers or any support. In my experience Spotify are not interested in helping artists when they need help but instead automatically consider artists criminals and guilty even though these stream strikes happen to hundreds of artists. When I posted this same comment on Spotify's Artificial Streaming video they deleted it :D
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Spotify charges for every stream that hits a certain amount of "artificial streaming" numbers. The distributor is charged by Spotify and this charge is forwarded to the client, e.g. the band or label. We got several of those reports lately and all of them are not caused by any activities from our or the bands side. There is no way we can be held accountable to any artificial streaming neither we or the band is responsible for. This is illegal and should not be allowed. It's a problem of Spotify and they should solve this. Unfortunately more than 75% or all streaming income comes from Spotify for most artists. But i think it's time to stand up, move away from Spotify and promote other platforms. This is a hard way to go, also for our company, since we have about 1000 album, ep and single releases online.
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Iโve been affected by this twice. iโve uploaded a track called wonder which was on Spotify and I was using the wheel of playlist I donโt received a notice that Iโve been using artificial streaming in which I stopped using a wheel of playlist after learning that wheel of playlist can contain bots two days later I received a notification from my email account saying that itโs been removed off of the platform and I decided to re-upload it using the same ISRC when I re-uploaded it, it got removed a second time this time I didnโt use wheel of playlist whatsoever. I just thought Iโd come forward and say this as an independent artist because iโm really getting worried you know
Another thing Iโd like to add is that Iโve removed my latest track โdream about youโ off of Playlist Spotlight, and the reason for that is because I fear that Spotify might one day pressure distrokid to replace the user friendly online contest with bots to trick us into artificial streaming for better competition for the major labels. iโm talking the same labels that Taylor Swift sued the same labels that Martin Garrix sued the same labels that screwed the NWA and Cube, Queen, my idol Avicii, etc., and etc. and etc.
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We had a song that we didnโt even promote have a huge spike in streams. We found and reported the relevant playlist to both Spotify and our distributor. Three months later the song was taken down. Ironically the playlist is still not taken down. So the loser here is our artist who did nothing wrong!
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I did a video about this, happened to me. I saw the fake streams, reported the playlist, they said they would investigate - 3 months later, my music removed, botted playlist still live!
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1 songs/1-2 location/1-2 listener . Do it potential fake streaming? (120 time of 1 songs and only that songs). Please reply me soon...
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Hey Andrew, curious about how Melodist responds to artificial streaming reports? I've been falsely flagged twice now (never paid for streams, no spikes in my data, streams mostly from Radio) on DistroKid, and there's really nothing you can say that will make them change their mind. I'm considering switching to Too Lost as I've heard they handle these situations better, but first wanted to see how Melodist would compare. Thanks Andrew! ๐
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Botted three times in as many months had an entire album pulled for 500 fake streams on the song. Get it reinstated and boom, two weeks later, same song botted again. So next thing I know I am fined twice for those two times. Then another song gets botted and now I am still in limbo waiting for my punishment for the third time. I did report the playlists, but they still don't care. And there was 9,999 songs on each one. I doubt they get that number of people even buying streams in one week. However, it is not illegal to sell fake streams and why Spotify can't do anything. The only solution is to cut off all the free accounts because that is what they need to do it. But they won't because they are earning too much from the ads running on them and fining indies
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i hate spotify wish their was other ways to get the music on there
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@speedcrawlmusicI just received another Bloody email from DistroKid that Spotify took another one of songs down BC of this "BS" ARTIFICIAL streaming.
We all need to start a group and go after SPOTIFY. ๐คฌ #spotifysucks #spotifyplaylists
I just had an issue with a shady promoter who got me on a bit playlist. When I called him out he spammed my account with 86,000 bot streams in one day. Spotify notified my distributor of the fraud stream and removed them from my profile. They only said 9,900 of the 86,000 where fraud and the rest were seen as real. So there is some huge issues with the system right now.
@RynX-MusicWhats bullshit tho is when youre using discovery mode, giving them 30% of those "artificial" streams and using Spotify's own ad platform to promote; some of us are getting absolutely ripped off by Spotify from multiple directions... something just doesn't add up.
@Jakeb-ReelHow do you avoid artificial streaming?
@chasincash8594It seems that many artist are innocent they havent initiated fake streams. It is possible that sporify's enemy is doing this fake streams. How can Spotify consider Artist responsible for fake streams. Because , there are 4 to 5 possibility to every case . Also, it seems many artist are innocent. It is done by Spotify's enemy. Artist should raise this point on social media.
@Realtruth-y1jDude, literally f*ck Spotify.
@johncomboSo you could just bot a musician you don't like and he gets banned?
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@Matchfy_ioWow, thanks for sharing,
@djicebreaker80When you say your own distributor you mean you own the company?
@djfortunomusicSo does the distributor I use matter in terms of my artist safety?
@wonkyboymakesstuffHas anyone ever gotten into trouble for listening to their own song on AirPods, normal volume, before going to bed (on repeat) just because they love it. And then fall asleep. And then when the streaming data is available see they streamed it 84 times? ๐ I know it was me because I was in a country I normally donโt get streams from. (Hong Kong)
@rickkramermusic'The artist claims nothing happens', let me assure you, it happens.
@JackGabyI had one song pulled. Tunecore have a zero tolerance policy. No 3 strikes or warnings. Song is pulled from ALL platforms and no appeal.
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@cool-jl8ymHey Andrew, watched all of your videos, doing the ads successfully, but have one question : what do you think about using a discography playlist as destination page for the ads ? with the new release on top. and the alternative would be the same but with waterfall releases ? thank you <3
@olikbotI have a question. Does looping a Spotify curated playlist counts as artificial streaming?
@gfxa7133This just happened to me. It was on an EP and they wouldn't tell me which song so I had to re-upload the whole thing.
I went through all of my stats and there was literally nothing that would give them cause to do this so how can this be ?
I showed Distrokid screen shots and they basically don't care.
I had 3 tracks removed by DistroKid after being added to a botted playlist for just one day. I immediately reported the fake streams to Spotify's customer service and they assured me I had nothing to worry about. Two months later, DistroKid removed the tracks... There is something extremely wrong with the whole system and we have no means of defense. Spotify MUST provide us with tools to remove tracks from playlists where we don't want them to end up.
@Jecks_musicArtists should have the option to go to any playlist that theyโve been added to and remove their song. In regards to Spotify, you should be able to go to your Spotify for artists account, go to the playlist that your song has been added to, and then given the option to remove the song and another option to remove and report the playlist. in my opinion if an artist gets booted from Spotify or whatever other streaming platform because they were added to a fraudulent playlist, they should be able to sue Spotify or whoever it was for removing them especially if they spent hundreds or thousands of dollars promoting a song on that platform when they had absolutely nothing to do with getting on that playlist and had no control of getting themselves off the playlist.
@sixtymilesdown1I wonder how many "artificial streams" come from free, ad-supported accounts.
Also Spotify could improve their image on this by showing us how many bots, botted playlists etc. they have removed. The only news we hear is from artists complaining when their catalogs get nuked from out of the blue.
Don't big artists do that and get away with it?
@kanyisothey did this to us fake flag of artifiial streaming even that i had 6 streams on spotify i hate spotify never again uploding
@drakehasbula5557One thing that never seems to amaze me is that, this stuff always happens to the smaller artists, I can put money on it wouldnโt happen to an artist like Taylor Swift, Drake etc. even if they did have artificial streams because of the amount of traffic that they would be bringing to their platform, also why is always Spotify in this situation? Apple, Amazon & Tidal seem to be fine but Spotify is the one all the time
@DaGrimmOneOfficialI had that convo with my distributor after receiving a report/threat from Spotify about 14k streams. It made no sense to me since I make 200k streams per day and they told me that most times, it's botted playlists. And we agree that Spotify is punishing the wrong person. Remove the botted playlists and their creators.
Luckily, my distrib got my back
This is the fault of the audience. People only stream music that they think other people like, which is popular. Very few people listen to music for its own merits. So artists have reacted to that by putting their songs on replay and/or buying fake streams. But the label artists were doing that ages ago. Music isn't popular unless it's already popular. You think that Ed Sheeran's next single is going to go through all the algorithmics until it graduates to Fresh Finds? See man, it's a sham. When Ed's next single drops, it STARTS on multiple editorials and there's going to be 100-300k streams on the first day. Even before the late 80s and Soundscan, charts didn't reflect sales, it was based on airplay and surveys and other rough estimates. Labels aren't innocent, Spotify enables THEM because they bribe Spotify, the label wants to protect its $2 million gamble on an Ed single.
@kpec3Thanks for putting this out there
@karthikganesh8126How can we access a Melodist report like this ?
@burnastein5430I've never been affected by any of this, but as far as I'm concerned it should be the bot accounts and playlists that are banned. If someone steals CDs from a store, the artist isn't threatened with being removed from shelves. If the allegation is that this was an indirect or direct action by the artist, that should be proven. Saying there is "no official appeals process" makes the distributor directly complicit, and a major part of the problem. I do, however, understand the difficulty of the situation. Unfortunate all around, really; and since Spotify spent years running at a loss to build a monopoly, it's hard to imagine they are likely to change for the better without major competition or pressure.
@nottypebeats7667really cool to see the distributor's side of artificial streams, it makes you wonder exactly how spotify determines what is "artificial" or not
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